The preworkout thread

**VallieFlag** · 12-19-2016, 04:53 PM

Elvia, take one scoop of each and tell me how you go lol.

**VallieFlag** · 12-19-2016, 04:56 PM

I'm coming to the end of my pcom cycle and I'm starting to drag ass. I think i need some PWO just to get my mind right. I don't care if its placebos, I just need to tell my brain 'yep, its go time'. A coffee just doesn't feel official enough. Its gotta have big dumb labelling and big words all over it.

**Elvia1023** · 02-18-2017, 08:48 PM

I can't believe I left this thread for so long. I have been really busy but been experimenting as usual. I was getting super tired post training and I thought it may be due to crashing from pre workouts. So I started training without them a few times and every time I was the same. I concluded it must solely be down to my MK-677 usage and simply training hard.

I started Redcon1's Total War and it definitely delivers. I have the blue raspberry flavour. It has the standard bitter taste of most pre workouts but isn't bad. It delivers in all areas so gives great energy and pumps without any bad crash afterwards. I have used it about 5 times now and would give it a 8/10.

Occasionally I go back and use certain products I really enjoyed. One of those is Ronnie Coleman's Yeah Buddy. Something that really makes it stand out is the initial euphoric feeling it brings. It also delivered in all areas and overall I find it to be a better product than Total War. I would probably give it a 9/10. This could be too strong for guys sensitive to stimulants so always start with 1/2 scoop to access your tolerance. It is very similar to HYDE but I rate it slightly better (HYDE 8.5/10).

Now my favourite one in recent months I keep going back to is Musclerage's Limitless. It provides amazing pumps and energy and just an overall sense of well being. It even tastes nice but that is not important to me. I give it a 9.5/10.

I have also started using humalog and synthetine pre workout and both of these are fantastic. My max doses will be 6-8IU humalog and 3ml synthetine and with that combo I get great pumps, vascularity and fullness.

**Elvia1023** · 02-18-2017, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by VallieFlag

I'm coming to the end of my pcom cycle and I'm starting to drag ass. I think i need some PWO just to get my mind right. I don't care if its placebos, I just need to tell my brain 'yep, its go time'. A coffee just doesn't feel official enough. Its gotta have big dumb labelling and big words all over it.

Did you end up trying a pre workout?

**Elvia1023** · 02-22-2017, 04:34 PM

Someone recently asked me my top 5 so I will post it here too. It's hard for me to give a top 5 because I used some when I was more sensitive to stimulants so perhaps they wouldn't have the same impact. But here it is...

1. GSN's NitroNOX Pro- Probably the best pre workout I have ever taken. This is amazing for energy, pumps, mood etc. It has everything and I recommend it to everyone. It's also the worst tasting pre workout ever

2. Musclemeds NO BULL- Great product. Amazing for pumps and good energy. Feel very different but in a good way. Some of the best pumps ever but they fade away after 2 weeks or so.
3. Dynamik's Savage Roar- Great product. Great energy, focus and pumps.
4. PRE JYM- What I call a complete pre workout. Has everything in it including aminos. Solid pre workout in every sense.
5. Musclerage Limitless- Great pumps and energy and sense of well being.

Worth mentioning...

Matrix Nutrition NO Pump Xtreme. This only has 80mg caffeine per scoop and is more a pump one. Incredible pumps and feel with a nice boost in energy. 2 scoops of this will give you ridiculous pumps and great energy. Great for trhe stimulant sensitive peopel out there.

Cobra Labs The Curse... fantastic product and very cheap. 1 scoop is good and 2 scoops are great. A very solid but basic product that outperforms it's label.

Ronnie Coleman's Yeah Buddy- I really liked this. Again great pumps and energy. This gives me a euphoric feeling about 10 mins post dosing which is rare for me.

I ordered from Iherb yesterday and they are due to be delivered 2moro. Mainly just health supplements and weightgainers. They don't have many pre workouts but I noticed they have Musclemed's NO Bull so I added it. I am curious how it treats me now as it was great in the past. That contains Adenosine 5'-triphosphate which gives ridiculous pumps. I also recall it being very strong stimulant wise so curious how I am with it now. Depending what time it comes I should use it 2moro so will update how it goes.

**Elvia1023** · 02-22-2017, 04:35 PM

It come so gonna use it before training back. Time to put on 8.8 pounds of muscle and get 147% stronger

**Elvia1023** · 02-23-2017, 11:26 PM

I tried NO Bull before but I need to try it again to judge it better. I was a bit disappointed but I took it too late. Over the years I have learnt I am best taking nearly every pre workout about 10-15 mins before training even if it states 30 mins like many do. They always kick in very fast for me.

When training back I sometimes like to start with abs like I did today. In the past I don't like the feeling of my pre workout kicking fully in when doing abs. When doing abs before back I like to do them very slowly and controlled and I don't want to be coming up on pre workout. So I drank it literally walking into the gym and in the changing room. This took much longer to kick in than expected so I will repeat 2moro and do it about 20mins pre training.

The pump I got at the end when training bi-ceps was amazing and I could barely shower properly afterwards. Plus I felt a surge of energy at the end of training. All in all very good but I will know more over the next few days.

**Elvia1023** · 03-02-2017, 01:24 AM

I have been using around 1 scoop of Musclemed's NO Bull pre workout recently and it's good but not as good as in the past. I read they changed the formula but I am unsure of that. I took just over 1 scoop tonight and felt that a lot... I think that is my sweet spot.

So far I would probably say 1 scoop is a 8/10 and 1.25 scoops closer to a 9/10. I haven't used much creatine recently so I like the fact it contains 3 different forms. Although I am unsure of the total dose of creatine as it doesn't list it (it will be fairly high though). I should add though without fail I need to go the toilet as soon as I get the gym on this one

**Zman111** · 03-02-2017, 07:41 AM

I am using CT Fletchers krakafat....its not bad but beside the Ultimate Orange they are all just all right

**GAINs** · 03-02-2017, 08:54 AM

Mesomorph with the 65 mg of dmaa is great. But for me transparent labs bulk is even better. I don't understand why it hasn't been mentioned, my only guess is because they are still a small company. Not overloaded with caffeine (180mg) but so much focus with 360mg of the a nine 8000 mg citraline malate and I think around 4000 mg of beta alanine!!

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