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01-09-2019, 04:15 AM
#181
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Originally Posted by
Elvia1023
I have been doing a little reading on DMHA and it's various aliases. You basically have synthetic and natural forms. Some of the terms used on the labels include dimethylhexylamine, octodrine, 2-aminoisoheptane, juglans regia extract, kigelia africana and walnut bark extract (etc).
The reason I started reading up is I was interested in it's possible effects on blood glucose. Fact is when I use it pre workout I have been going hypo post workout if I don't eat straightaway. This is obviously without any insulin usage and even when using a reasonable amount (40-60g) of intra carbs. The fact I train very hard and for long periods is the biggest contributor to me feeling like this post wotkout. It's happened before but with the addition of DMHA it's happening everytime I don't eat straightaway post workout.
Diabetics obviously respond differently to none diabetics. Nevertheless I have found some interesting info. Most notably in studies Juglans regia extract at 200mg daily has been shown to significantly decrease FBG, HbA1c, total cholesterol and triglyceride levels. There is much more info and feel free to check out for yourselves but I figured I would highlight it.
After reading the above I should make it more clear I am not using this has evidence for me going hypo. Those change were over a 3 month period when using 200mg Juglans regia per day. Nevertheless still very interesting data especially if you are using DMHA pre workouts most days per week. I also forgot to mention that there were no adverse effects including any liver or kidney damage. I still think DMHA is definitely having a contributing effect but the main reason are my fairly long and hard workouts that can deplete me. The DHMA products also stay with me a long time which can be positive and negative. I definitely feel shorter cycles are needed for these stronger stimulants so I will probably have a 2 weeks off all DHMA based products soon.
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01-13-2019, 01:40 AM
#182
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01-14-2019, 02:34 AM
#183
I tried Dymatize's Pre again tonight and it was exactly the same. I recall when I tried 1 scoop the other week I thought it was quite weak. I don't think I posted about it though. It just shows you it's always worth trying again. I dosed 1 1/3 scoops (same as yesterday) and I had nice clean energy, felt good and had a great pump. No breathing issues and was fine doing cardio (rowing machine) and in the shower afterwards. When I got home I felt like training again I felt really good so I am pleased. No heavy crash like some other products. I think it's the high dose of teacrine that is making the difference. I seem to respond well to it. I will try another product next gym day (likely 2moro) to change things up.
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01-14-2019, 02:54 AM
#184
Check out c4 Ultimate. It’s great
The Ultimate edition ...the regular c4 is garbage.
I believe c4 ultimate has 6 grams of citrulline, 3.2 grams beta Alanine, 300 mgs caffeine and 1.5 grams creatine nitrate ...plus other goodies. I love it
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02-05-2019, 05:20 AM
#185
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bigadam73
Check out c4 Ultimate. It’s great
The Ultimate edition ...the regular c4 is garbage.
I believe c4 ultimate has 6 grams of citrulline, 3.2 grams beta Alanine, 300 mgs caffeine and 1.5 grams creatine nitrate ...plus other goodies. I love it
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I will do matey. I just checked it out properly and it looks very similar to Dymatize's Pre workout I posted above above. If you like C4 The Ultimate I would try Dymatize's out as I think it's great. If I get a chance I will order C4 as well. Thanks
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02-05-2019, 05:21 AM
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02-07-2019, 03:05 AM
#187
I read this thread when I first joined. Very informative.
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02-14-2019, 08:02 PM
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02-14-2019, 08:05 PM
#189
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Originally Posted by
Elvia1023
I used Black Magic Bzrk the other day which I was told contains 200mg (may have been just over) of DMHA. I used it a few times over the last few weeks and it's a solid product. Great focus, energy and pumps. It also tastes great which is rare (peach ring flavour). After a few usages I would give it an 8-8.5/10. Here are it's ingredients...
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Thanks for the review on this! Been lookin for something new to try out and damn I bet that flavor is tha bomb
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03-16-2019, 12:49 AM
#190
I took Driven Sports RIZE yesterday. Just over 2 scoops (label recommends 1-2 scoops). It's almost frustrating because like other times for the first 30 mins I felt euphoric and on top of the world. I take preworkouts before leaving and walked to the gym with my gf and felt incredible. Then it soon faded away and I felt wired but not in a great way. You have to play about with this one a bit. Still a good product you just have find your right dose with it (heard anything from 1-3 scoops from people). With all the competition out there though I don't recommend this one especially due to the high price.
Tonight I tried one of my all time favs. That was just over 1 scoop of 5%'s 5150. I felt great this time and had an amazing workout. Solid energy, focus and pumps with no crash. Contains a lot of caffeine but no DMHA/DMAA which is good for me. It's been 2 hours since I got back and I feel good and relaxed. I rate this higher than 5%'s newest preworkout Kill It Reloaded.
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