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      Quote Originally Posted by Elvia1023 View Post
      I have been doing a little reading on DMHA and it's various aliases. You basically have synthetic and natural forms. Some of the terms used on the labels include dimethylhexylamine, octodrine, 2-aminoisoheptane, juglans regia extract, kigelia africana and walnut bark extract (etc).

      The reason I started reading up is I was interested in it's possible effects on blood glucose. Fact is when I use it pre workout I have been going hypo post workout if I don't eat straightaway. This is obviously without any insulin usage and even when using a reasonable amount (40-60g) of intra carbs. The fact I train very hard and for long periods is the biggest contributor to me feeling like this post wotkout. It's happened before but with the addition of DMHA it's happening everytime I don't eat straightaway post workout.

      Diabetics obviously respond differently to none diabetics. Nevertheless I have found some interesting info. Most notably in studies Juglans regia extract at 200mg daily has been shown to significantly decrease FBG, HbA1c, total cholesterol and triglyceride levels. There is much more info and feel free to check out for yourselves but I figured I would highlight it.
      After reading the above I should make it more clear I am not using this has evidence for me going hypo. Those change were over a 3 month period when using 200mg Juglans regia per day. Nevertheless still very interesting data especially if you are using DMHA pre workouts most days per week. I also forgot to mention that there were no adverse effects including any liver or kidney damage. I still think DMHA is definitely having a contributing effect but the main reason are my fairly long and hard workouts that can deplete me. The DHMA products also stay with me a long time which can be positive and negative. I definitely feel shorter cycles are needed for these stronger stimulants so I will probably have a 2 weeks off all DHMA based products soon.
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      I used Dymatize's Pre tonight. I haven't marked it officially yet as I have only used it a couple of times. I wasn't sure about it in the past but it felt great tonight. I know one of the main reasons for that and let me explain...

      I have been using a lot of stronger stimulant based preworkouts recently and they feel amazing in the gym but many times I finish my workout and I always feel destroyed. I train hard but I know that's just a small factor as I trained brutally hard tonight and felt great afterwards. A lot of times I literally struggle to walk home after the gym as I am that out of it. They can also elevate your heart rate so much your breathing is effected. A few times I have wanted to get a sauna post workout recently and it would be horrible due to me being so out of breath. I love the focus DMHA gives but it can have these negatives. Amp citrate is another great one but it can do the same. I have never really responded that well to DMAA and it would make me feel sick very often. DHMA is generally much more smoother for me than the others and my fav out of the 3. Although on all of them I can have good/bad days depending upon dose, diet and training etc.

      The likes of Excelsior makes me feel so euphoric so it's amazing I just have to be careful with my dose. The bad thing is I only get that crazy euphoric feeling at higher doses so it's a win/lose situation. Many of the others I have used recently bring great focus/energy but it's not usually without negatives. Anyway tonight it felt good and I had nice energy, great pumps and no negatives.

      I personally like the beta alanine tingles and this preworkout hits you hard as it's dosed at 3.2g. So many products claim 2-3.2g on their label but I never feel a thing. But within 5 mins of dosing my whole face was tingling. It also contains a lot of ingredients that assist pumps/fullness. My intra shake covers that but the addition only adds to things. Here are the full ingredients...

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      I tried Dymatize's Pre again tonight and it was exactly the same. I recall when I tried 1 scoop the other week I thought it was quite weak. I don't think I posted about it though. It just shows you it's always worth trying again. I dosed 1 1/3 scoops (same as yesterday) and I had nice clean energy, felt good and had a great pump. No breathing issues and was fine doing cardio (rowing machine) and in the shower afterwards. When I got home I felt like training again I felt really good so I am pleased. No heavy crash like some other products. I think it's the high dose of teacrine that is making the difference. I seem to respond well to it. I will try another product next gym day (likely 2moro) to change things up.
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      Check out c4 Ultimate. It’s great

      The Ultimate edition ...the regular c4 is garbage.

      I believe c4 ultimate has 6 grams of citrulline, 3.2 grams beta Alanine, 300 mgs caffeine and 1.5 grams creatine nitrate ...plus other goodies. I love it


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      Quote Originally Posted by bigadam73 View Post
      Check out c4 Ultimate. It’s great

      The Ultimate edition ...the regular c4 is garbage.

      I believe c4 ultimate has 6 grams of citrulline, 3.2 grams beta Alanine, 300 mgs caffeine and 1.5 grams creatine nitrate ...plus other goodies. I love it


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      I will do matey. I just checked it out properly and it looks very similar to Dymatize's Pre workout I posted above above. If you like C4 The Ultimate I would try Dymatize's out as I think it's great. If I get a chance I will order C4 as well. Thanks
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      I haven't updated in awhile but wanted to go over a few things.

      - I don't like Condemned Labz Convict. On paper for someone like me it looks incredible. I always feel out of breath on it even with 1 scoop. However it doesn't feel strong to me at the same time and doesn't give the focus and energy other product's do. I have tried it a few times and it actually worsens my workouts which is strange for a pre workout. HYDE was very similar for me but Convict is loaded with stuff not just high caffeine. Most seem to love it though and it's rated very highly.

      - I ordered another tub of Dymatize's Pre workout because I love it. It doesn't give the euphoria of Excelsior but it has no negative side effects for me. I feel great on it every time. Great pumps and energy everytime. I have gone up to 1.5 scoops and no crash and just tonnes of long lasting energy.

      - Excelsior is great but I have mixed feeling about it now. Sometimes I take it and feel amazing/euphoric and other times the complete opposite. I also tend to crash from it and go hypo post workout if I don't eat carbs straightaway. That's why I stopped doing 1.5 scoops as the crash was worse at that dose. It's feels party drug like to me which is weird to state but very true. When I train I don't have my phone with me and I just get on with it and train hard. However Excelsior often makes me feel so happy and I want to chat to people which is bizarre. If you are ever going out and feel tired excelsior would be worth trying. Maybe I should tell all my coke head mates to try it on the weekend I used it tonight with great effect and destroyed back.

      - Generally I want to stay away from DHMA products for awhile. I will use excelsior every so often but staying away from the others I have. Most days I go with Dymatize's Pre that just uses caffeine and teacrine as it's main stimualnts. I also use 5150 occasional as well and it's always a solid product.
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      I read this thread when I first joined. Very informative.
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      I used Black Magic Bzrk the other day which I was told contains 200mg (may have been just over) of DMHA. I used it a few times over the last few weeks and it's a solid product. Great focus, energy and pumps. It also tastes great which is rare (peach ring flavour). After a few usages I would give it an 8-8.5/10. Here are it's ingredients...

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      Quote Originally Posted by Elvia1023 View Post
      I used Black Magic Bzrk the other day which I was told contains 200mg (may have been just over) of DMHA. I used it a few times over the last few weeks and it's a solid product. Great focus, energy and pumps. It also tastes great which is rare (peach ring flavour). After a few usages I would give it an 8-8.5/10. Here are it's ingredients...

      Thanks for the review on this! Been lookin for something new to try out and damn I bet that flavor is tha bomb


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      I took Driven Sports RIZE yesterday. Just over 2 scoops (label recommends 1-2 scoops). It's almost frustrating because like other times for the first 30 mins I felt euphoric and on top of the world. I take preworkouts before leaving and walked to the gym with my gf and felt incredible. Then it soon faded away and I felt wired but not in a great way. You have to play about with this one a bit. Still a good product you just have find your right dose with it (heard anything from 1-3 scoops from people). With all the competition out there though I don't recommend this one especially due to the high price.

      Tonight I tried one of my all time favs. That was just over 1 scoop of 5%'s 5150. I felt great this time and had an amazing workout. Solid energy, focus and pumps with no crash. Contains a lot of caffeine but no DMHA/DMAA which is good for me. It's been 2 hours since I got back and I feel good and relaxed. I rate this higher than 5%'s newest preworkout Kill It Reloaded.
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