ON amino energy is great for energy without getting the N.O. creepy crawlies and shakes. Primeval labs has a good line of products and I really like Feroce. He gives good reviews on their products. Gonna have to try his products now that he left Primeval. I like some of the Rich Piana stuff to. Their real food products are the shit. Taste great, fill you up without the bloat and have everything needed to get you to your next meal.