Test numbers before TRT

**Dana93** · 05-01-2014, 01:17 AM

Hey guys, As a new member in my intro post i was invited to share my numbers, Ill do my best posting correct info. stuff in the norm ill leave out unless advised to post as well. My intro post is titled "new guy here"

A little background, major accident end of last year. Head trauma severe concussion, still recovering. (helmet saved my life!) after that my body crashed rapidly. I was having issues prior, couldn't get my ass up in the AM, time at the gym was a mental waste, weight was climbing, depression, major sleep problems, agitation, NO energy!! days where hard to get through and the list goes on and on. sitting in my mid 30s and far from where i need to be.

Started TRT almost three weeks ago with test cyp 2000 mg/10ml Doc wants me to do 1ml every 4 weeks. He wants a followup in three months from the start, REALLY!! I strongly don't agree due to the fact on how i feel. after the the first shot i didn't feel a change and didn't expect to, BUT about a week and half later WTF I'm feeling much worse than before the shot!!

Today i saw my Prime care Doc today and laid out my sorrows like a little bitch, that i wasn't happy with the withdraw/ crash effects it caused. He bumped my followup with the specialist to this Friday and hopefully something will be done to help.

Whats hard is the vial is in my possession and I'm fighting the temptation to administer another shot, luckily Friday is close by. Any suggestions to help convence the Doc to step up his game and help out? I like the clinic i go to and don't want to scare him off from being to aggressive for more more and more.

Thanks for your time reading this and any input or guidance you can offer

Here is the last two blood tests that i had that got me on TRT. below are pre trt, will post next blood work after completion

March 18th 5:37pm
Pref range
Blood UREA NITROGEN 26MG/DL 7-23
Creatinine 1.32 mg/dl .60-1.30
Albumin Blood 5.1 g/dl 3.5-4.8
ALT 47 iu/l 10-40
Cholesterol-cfr 273 mg/dl <200
Triglyceride-cfr 428 mg/dl <150
Cholesterol/hdl Ratio 5.4 <5.0

Test total male >20 263 ng/dl 241-827

Sex Hormone
BindingGolbulin 35.0 nmol/l 17.3-65.8

Test free male >20 45 pg/ml 47-244

Test free % male >20 1.7% 1.6-2.9
Albumin Blood 5.20g/dl 3.5-4.8

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April 4th 10AM Test only blood work

Result Preference

Test total male >20 224 ng/dl 241-827

Sex Hormone
BindingGolbulin 26.5 nmol/l 17.3-65.8

Test free male >20 45 pg/ml 47-244

Test free % male >20 1.7% 1.6-2.9

Albumin Blood 4.90 g/dl 3.5-4.8

**Dont wanna be old** · 05-01-2014, 01:51 AM

I really am not any good here .
I see total test dropped from March to April .
Free Test both below range .
Only variable could be administration vs test day .
I only hope you Dr is interested in optimal Test and not happy with bottom range .
Really let him know your disappointment . Sexual dysfunction and interest is good cause also for him to take action .
Wife/girlfriend thinks there's something wrong with them .
My goal is script with refills .

I'm no expert or good here . Just wanna throw something at you .
Good luck
DWBO

**kubes** · 05-01-2014, 02:28 AM

Your test numbers after 4 weeks will be low I am sure. This is just part of the game with most dr's. More than likely when you go back in and they run your labs again they will bump you to 200 eow. You just have to tough it out a little longer. You are almost there

**wook** · 05-01-2014, 02:51 AM

Originally Posted by kubes

Your test numbers after 4 weeks will be low I am sure. This is just part of the game with most dr's. More than likely when you go back in and they run your labs again they will bump you to 200 eow. You just have to tough it out a little longer. You are almost there

I totally agree... Convincing a doc to prescribe more will be difficult, especially now with all of the commercials I have been seeing with lawyers trying to sue doc's for prescribing Test to patients who are allegedly coming down with ailments and such... Your best course of action is like DWBO stated, just to let him know that you are still feeling shitty, describing the same symptoms you stated above and see how that goes... I also like the girlfriend/wife angle, making it clear that your not the only one suffering from the symptoms... If he doesn't come around, I would self administer and say F#$% the script! Sometimes you Gotta do what you gotta do! Good luck bro!

**kubes** · 05-01-2014, 03:07 AM

Originally Posted by wook

I totally agree... Convincing a doc to prescribe more will be difficult, especially now with all of the commercials I have been seeing with lawyers trying to sue doc's for prescribing Test to patients who are allegedly coming down with ailments and such... Your best course of action is like DWBO stated, just to let him know that you are still feeling shitty, describing the same symptoms you stated above and see how that goes... I also like the girlfriend/wife angle, making it clear that your not the only one suffering from the symptoms... If he doesn't come around, I would self administer and say F#$% the script! Sometimes you Gotta do what you gotta do! Good luck bro!

This^^^ being on trt, running labs all the time isn't all it's cracked up to be. To be honest cycling on trt is kind of a pain. Like everyone has said play it out and see what happens when you run labs again and good luck!!

**Dana93** · 05-07-2014, 03:43 PM

So I saw the Doc last Friday, I brought the wife. the Doc was explaining to her the symptoms of low Test and so on to her, she looked right at him and said that he had just described me to the T. He said to do .5cc every other week (same dose overall for the month, just two injection rather one a month). I took .5 on Friday and yesterday was the first day of feeling better. Am i going to be up and down every week until I get a full dose every or every other week like i probably should? I thought bringing my wife would of helped a little more. Ill wait it out but my next appointment is not until July! This is aggravating, I don't like the lows. When I say I feel better Its not that I feel like I have more life in me, its just that i feel more stable. The Low is awful and concerning, to the point I second guess if its worth it. it is causing issues at home and I dont even want to be there. Never-mind the gym at that time all i can think of is bed.
Thanks for letting me rant..... and bitch