Hey Bros,
I've been on the board for a while and have learned a ton so far but still have so many questions. I need some help understanding my numbers, the effect of the gear, and how to calm down the sides. I'm a little confused and could use some advice. I started on HRT with the goal of increasing my test.
First, my goals. I don't want to blast through any hormone levels as the sides hit me fairly severely. I seem to be fairly sensitive to all medicines. In fact, my main issues and concerns are too high of readings. I want to have high-normal readings testosterone (750-900), and normal readings estradiol (20-25). My main interests are anti-aging, fat loss, mental clarity, and overall well being. I am not looking to get huge, but would like that athletic look. I have been working out quite heavily for 2.5 years. Height is 5'9", weight is 190 lbs. BF is about 22%.
I started with HRT at a local clinic to boost my Test levels. The Dr didn't impress me at all so I've basically given up on him. All he did was write Rxs. Not much advice or knowledge shared when I asked what I thought were basic questions. After 5 months, I gave up on his protocol becuase the sides were too much for me to figure out. I then started on HGH. It's been about 2.5 months since I started HGH.
Here's my log. Thanks for reading. Hopefully this makes sense.
Age 46 / male
2017-7-27 Baseline Labs (quest)
- 394 - Testosterone (ng/dL)
- 7.33 - Free Testosterone
- 22 - Estradiol
Protocol
- Clomid - 50 MG x 3d per week (150 mg / week)
- HCG - 100 units x 2d per week (200 units / week)
Sides - Body odor (had to shower 2X a day), Bad skin (large ones that stay around forever, especially on neck and chest)
2017-10-17Labs (quest)
- 1072 - Testosterone
- 22.9 - Free Testosterone
- 57.3 - Estradiol
Sides - continued BO, skin worsens
2017-11-15 - change in dosage because the sides were just too much
Protocol
- 25 mg Clomid - eod (87.5 mg / week)
- 57 units HCG - every three days (133 units / week)
- .25 mg Anastrozole (AI) - every 4 days
2017-12-4- increased AI to .25 mg e3d
2017-12-20- started HGH 2iu per day (jintropin)
2017-12-26 Labs (labcorp)
- 1168 - Testosterone
- 25.5 - Free Testosterone
- 57.9 - Estradiol
2017-12-30- Estradiol readings are still to high. Increase AI to.25 EOD, still had major skin issues.
- reduced Clomid to 25 mg every 3 days
- Sides, continued BO, skin worsens
2018-1-7- Stopping all HRT due to high estro levels and extremely bad skin that won't heal. Didn't feel comfortable continuing due to possible gyno risks and heavy sides.
- Took 2 more .25 MG AI to bring down Estro levels
2018-2-8
Labs (labcorp)
- 423 - Testosterone
- 24.8 - Estradiol
As you can see, I could not get the HRT for testosterone to balance. My readings we always really high on both test and estro even though I reduced dosage of clomid and HCG by as much a 50%. When I increased the AI, my skin only worsened. I must be adverse to the type of AI. I did feel pretty amazing with high test, energy was AWESOME, workouts were intense, mental clarity was on point. But, do I really want it to be THAT high, in the 1200 range? Seems like my body just converts the excess test to estrogen when I cant get under control. I would be very happy in the 750-900 range. My main concern is the estr levels above 30, which I was not able to achieve.
Questions I have:
- As I cut back my HCG and Clomid dosage, my test and estrogen readings increased as well as the sides. Should I have increased the Anastrozole even more that the recommended dosage?
- If I were to start up the HRT again, should I try a different AI? Anastrozole is the generic version of Arimidex. Any other recommendations there? I'd like to maintain a 750-900 testosterone reading while maintain a 20-25 estradiol reading ideally.
I started HGH protocol which in late December which is going well. I've posted my HGH questions in another section. I am not cruising at 4 IUs and feel pretty good.
Thanks!
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