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What should I do next
Hey Folks,
I'll start with a bit of history, earlier this year I had the mandatory multiple tests to find my levels and I had a TT of 8.8 and a free T of 214 (255-725 range), not low enough to get PBS test but low enough to be put on the Gel
After using the Gel for a while I had followup tests that showed TT at 14 and Free T had risen to 392. Convinced my doctor that this was pretty shit and he prescribed 250mg Primoteston every 2 weeks.
I even convinced him that 125ml weekly would be better for stable levels Primotest comes in a preloaded syringe so they gave me half and threw the other half away... WTF. Anyway, after I finished crying over that I decided that every 2 weeks would be better than this wastage, so went back to that protocol. As this is early days my Doc wants me to get the injections done at his office, he is happy for me to self inject once we get happy stable levels.
Had my levels tested yesterday, 13 days after the previous injection and I returned a Free T reading of 728.6 pmol/L (255-725 range), I'm not sure if this is normal or I'm an overresponder, but now he wants to spead the injections to every 21 days.
I started feeling a little bit crappy at about day 11 so I cant imagine how shit it will be to spread it out for a further week.
My Doc has agreed to keep injections at every 2 weeks and take another reading in a few weeks time, is there anything I can do that will help me stay under the top of the range other than stay awake the night before or get pissed?
Thanks,
ChemRom
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Donate blood the day prior
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I think getting drunk the night before helps too. I don't remember if you have drink something specific like red wine or not so check more into it.
This game isn't for everyone, being big and bloated doesn't make you the man, nor does being 110lbs ripped. If you are not competing, find a happy medium. I was thin once, learned all there was to learn about steroids and got pretty big. Then learned how to eat and I got really huge.
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So I tried to give blood the day before but the universe just wasn't on my side and everything got in the way.
Decided to get up and 5.00am and hit the gym for an hour or two before the blood test.
Got results back the next day and T came in at 688, hopefully I can convince him to just leave it where it stands.
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Originally Posted by
Gearaholic
Donate blood the day prior
This...........
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Ironically, I'm dealing with the same issue on the other side of the planet. Doc's are focused on numbers and not listening to the patient. Those of us on TRT know what you're going through. Low T levels feel like shit. It seems men get the raw deal when it comes to HRT. I would argue that black market steroids are largely fueled by frustrated TRT guys. I guarantee if you were a woman they'd be plugging you full of estrogen without thinking twice.
Might want to start looking for another doctor. Also, be sure to focus on symptoms, lethargy, sex drive, etc. Those are not quantifiable. Once he allows you to self inject will also be a big help. Better to break down doses into two half doses twice a week. Overall test spike won't be as high but you'll be much more level without the rollercoaster ride....
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Well here's a happy day update, my doc is pleased that my last reading came back within range and is now letting me do my own thing at home.
I'm now pinning twice a week instead of every 2 weeks and even the Mrs acknowledges I'm less of a miserable fuck.
A few more weeks of this and everything should be cruising along smoothly.
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Originally Posted by
Chemical Romance
Hey Folks,
I'll start with a bit of history, earlier this year I had the mandatory multiple tests to find my levels and I had a TT of 8.8 and a free T of 214 (255-725 range), not low enough to get PBS test but low enough to be put on the Gel
After using the Gel for a while I had followup tests that showed TT at 14 and Free T had risen to 392. Convinced my doctor that this was pretty shit and he prescribed 250mg Primoteston every 2 weeks.
I even convinced him that 125ml weekly would be better for stable levels
Primotest comes in a preloaded syringe so they gave me half and threw the other half away... WTF. Anyway, after I finished crying over that I decided that every 2 weeks would be better than this wastage, so went back to that protocol. As this is early days my Doc wants me to get the injections done at his office, he is happy for me to self inject once we get happy stable levels.
Had my levels tested yesterday, 13 days after the previous injection and I returned a Free T reading of 728.6 pmol/L (255-725 range), I'm not sure if this is normal or I'm an overresponder, but now he wants to spead the injections to every 21 days.
I started feeling a little bit crappy at about day 11 so I cant imagine how shit it will be to spread it out for a further week.
My Doc has agreed to keep injections at every 2 weeks and take another reading in a few weeks time, is there anything I can do that will help me stay under the top of the range other than stay awake the night before or get pissed?
Thanks,
ChemRom
If you don't mind me asking how old are you bro?
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I'm 52.
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julskee
If you don't mind me asking how old are you bro?
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Originally Posted by
Chemical Romance
Well here's a happy day update, my doc is pleased that my last reading came back within range and is now letting me do my own thing at home.
I'm now pinning twice a week instead of every 2 weeks and even the Mrs acknowledges I'm less of a miserable fuck.
A few more weeks of this and everything should be cruising along smoothly.
Good to hear... But there's still half a syringe of test at some rubbish dump site lol
I didn't want to use the tiny Bayer syringe so I transferred to my normal one and I only could get 0.9ml today so I felt ripped off but at least my levels will be slightly lower if I just do that next time also. That 20G i couldn't bare and I want the doc to give me a delt shot so I can learn properly but his preferred is 21G and I'd rather 23G and even then they are brutal.
What's your levels like now? What's your protocol for blood tests ongoing? I'm trying to work out when I'm going to have to see the doc because he said in a month if I'm pinning weekly or five weeks If im pinning fortnightly. Need to know when I can start cycle lol
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