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      blood test results, need feedback

      Hi Bros

      Just got blood done in mainland China, checking for Test and other hormone levels. I will go back and talk to the endo but we don't have a language in common and even when we do in China, discussions with doctors quickly get frustrating, and docs allow a few minutes per patient only, which get easily wasted when using an interpreter.
      Also the normal range indicated next to the test results give a lower limit than the range on some western website I just checked so my results are probably more alarming for a westerner.
      i'm a westerner, 44 y o, and starting to consider TRT, or if I decide to do AAS cycles wether i should go through PCT or just cruise afterwards at a TRT dosage. Only doing HGH at the moment, 4 IU a day and some OTC supplements.

      The resuts come in ng/ml, i'll multiply them by 100 so it comes (if I'm not wrong) in ng/dl which should be more familiar to you guys.
      Also i did ask specifically for free test levels but they don't seem to be available.

      Testo : 401 ng/dl
      FSH 165 mIU/dl that's very low even on the local range, which shows 127 to 1926
      LH 298 mIU/dl
      PRL 10.89 ng/dl
      E2 2700 pg/dl

      About TRT and and suppressing cycles, i'm reading about guys my age very happy with the results so I'm very curious but while from here it's fairly easy to find gear apparently, I do a couple of long travels per year, one lasting 5 to 6 weeks, and can't travel with testo without prescription, so that sounds like an issue.
      Training wise I've been back lifting for 5 months only (practiced other sports the last few years, as a doc advised me not to lift heavy ever again following a slipped disk, but other sports brought their share of injuries... so back lifting) and while I've put on 12kgs (it looks like mostly muscles with probably some fat and water), and i've actually never been bigger, my strength is way below where it was at 30 weighing 14kgs less (training natty back then, following a powerlifting routine. Took a 14 years break from lifting after 30...). Now 97kgs (213lbs) for 179cm (little below 5.11) I've used AAS before btw, in my mid 20s, without AI nor PCT and ended up with gyno. Had surgery 10 years back, and I suspect not much if any of the gland is left considering how the nipple area gets inward.

      if any of you more knowledgeable lifters care to chime in and comment, many thanks, I'll use your input when going to the endo , as well as later down the road.

      Cheers
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      Just did the conversion to nmol/L as I've seen it in other threads here ;

      Test comes to 13.90nmol/L which appears low, the range on another report here is 10-33

      Also I had another bloodtest a few weeks ago checking a bunch of paramaters, although afaik not testosterone related, and all was within range.
      Last edited by jnab; 01-11-2018 at 11:34 AM.

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      well technically id say 400 COULD be considered normal in regards to ur age. but optimal? probly want 700 minimum.
      if LH is low u could consider clomid for TRT for however long the protocol is and see if it raises it and not be stuck injecting for life.

      or if u dont mind injections like me u can do injections for life and, cruise and maintain ur gains and not have to take SERMS after every cycle playing a waiting game owndering if ur natural test will come back and if u will maintain ur gains

      also just noticed ur E2, maybe u should vconvert that number as well. if that number is high that could be ur sole reason for low test and youd just need to lower it to be optimal

      but again injection route/cruise is best for gains
      Last edited by 350zsidewayzz; 01-11-2018 at 03:46 PM.

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      Thanks for your input.

      E2 2700 pg/ml coverts to 2.7ng/dl, it's right in the middle of the indicated range on that bloodtest.

      I don't mind injections per se, actually pinning Gh twice a day now, but travelling, and later changing country of residence makes this problematic. It sounds a major issue to be on TRT without Testosterone on hand, although i suspect after finding a doctor that puts one on TRT,it's easier to carry some Test along and get a new doctor to follow the treatment when moving. But far from sure I can find that first doctor.

      Reading about clomid for TRT, will look into it further, it might be a good first step if it doesn't suppress HPTA. PCT sounds like a major hassle if i plan to cycle though, especially if it's to struggle to get back around 400. Can one just keep on doing clomid and hope to keep more gains seeing some guys manage to get their Test levels around 1000 with Clomid, some use HCG as well ? I'm planning to use GH as long as it's available btw, stopping only when travelling. Might add other peptides if they help.

      I don't feel particulary bad or tired btw, and see decent results in the gym , but would still appreciate getting stronger and more energetic. Also i've been using proscar for years, and already lost quite a bit of hair, i suspect pinning testosterone would mean shaving my head in the near future, which doesn't sound great.

      Anyway all further advice welcome, and thanks all Bros on the forum for sharing quite a bit of information.
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      Decided to drop the Finasteride after several years of use, overlal it doesn't seem to help when one gets older, as hairloss might not be the worst problem.
      I will probably give a try to Clomid within a couple of weeks while keeping an eye on a doctor who could have me started on TRT (Hong kong is probably a better bet, but quite time consuming from here to see regularly a doc in HK, checking anyway)
      All further advice welcome, especially that long term Clomid therapy to increase test levels seems to enjoy zero popularity on this forum.

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      dont worry, my test level 13 months ago was 128 or something like that ( i dont remember ) so it was very low but all was ok with me, after few months my test was around 600, i did one cycle, than PCT, it was about 6months ago when i end cycle ive started to drink till ... yesterday ( not ED but 4-5times per week ) meanwhile ive did blood levels and my test level was 768. always when i had problems with liver my test was low, better liver results higher test level, lower e2 level

      from my experience i my advice you to, clean your liver from stones, than run even short cycle 6 week cycle, run PCT

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      Quote Originally Posted by yesidont View Post
      dont worry, my test level 13 months ago was 128 or something like that ( i dont remember ) so it was very low but all was ok with me, after few months my test was around 600, i did one cycle, than PCT, it was about 6months ago when i end cycle ive started to drink till ... yesterday ( not ED but 4-5times per week ) meanwhile ive did blood levels and my test level was 768. always when i had problems with liver my test was low, better liver results higher test level, lower e2 level

      from my experience i my advice you to, clean your liver from stones, than run even short cycle 6 week cycle, run PCT
      Thanks Yesidont, yet the way you wrote it doesn't seem drinking hurt your test much if it went from 600 to 700+ while boozng 4 to 5 times a week?!?
      About the 128 level, was it after a cycle before you fully recovered or your level before you started doing aas ?
      But that's one of the questions I'm asking myself right now, go straight on clomid or do a cycle before that (i very seldom drink fwiw).

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