My doctor officially blows

**Kzoo Detector** · 01-26-2018, 08:10 PM

So last year I had my levels checked and my total testosterone was 19. Not 190 but 19! The doctor puts me on 300 mg cyp every two weeks. All was going fairly well if not spectacular when he says my RBC is high and reduces me to 200 mg ONCE A MONTH. Obviously at this low frequency my levels would crash to those of a 100 year old man, which they did. I had bloods done a little over a week ago and now my total test is at a whopping 72 ng/dL. The doctor sends me the results with the message "Testosterone levels are low again. Have you been compliant with injections? If so I may need to increase dose." MAY need. Well no shit. Dose and frequency need to be increased... I've been telling him this for the longest time, but what do I know? I'm just the one dealing with this every day. I go through the pain in the ass of travelling across town once a month for this measly 200 mg injection. On the plus side, I'm setting up an appointment Monday since he wasn't in the office today. They may allow me to administer my own injections, which would be a huge relief for me.

**superdrolgyno** · 01-26-2018, 08:13 PM

In the age of the internet, ignorance on that level is grossly negligent

**parttimer** · 01-26-2018, 08:15 PM

I'm on 200 a week and went to my primary care since I have high rbc. My primary is not my writer for hrt, and he asked me to drop to 100 week to see if it changes. I do blood next week and expect no change. This is a new Dr since my old guy retired. New Dr says he prescribes test but most of his patients go of after awhile. Well my sex drive has tanked in the last well, can't wait!

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**Bullseye Forever** · 01-26-2018, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by Kzoo Detector

So last year I had my levels checked and my total testosterone was 19. Not 190 but 19! The doctor puts me on 300 mg cyp every two weeks. All was going fairly well if not spectacular when he says my RBC is high and reduces me to 200 mg ONCE A MONTH. Obviously at this low frequency my levels would crash to those of a 100 year old man, which they did. I had bloods done a little over a week ago and now my total test is at a whopping 72 ng/dL. The doctor sends me the results with the message "Testosterone levels are low again. Have you been compliant with injections? If so I may need to increase dose." MAY need. Well no shit. Dose and frequency need to be increased... I've been telling him this for the longest time, but what do I know? I'm just the one dealing with this every day. I go through the pain in the ass of travelling across town once a month for this measly 200 mg injection. On the plus side, I'm setting up an appointment Monday since he wasn't in the office today. They may allow me to administer my own injections, which would be a huge relief for me.

Dude! I went through the exact same thing!! And I went through 3 Endos and 2 Urologist’s and they only wanted injections once every 2 weeks,which my levels would drop and I would feel like shit! So after all that,oh I about forgot,they wouldn’t even test for Estradiol either,so I decided to self medicate my trt,I found the dose that I can live with,I get bloods done several times a year,and I also get a prostate exam once a year...and I feel much better,not telling you what to do man,but the doctors around here where I live are assholes!!

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**babybull34** · 01-26-2018, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by Bullseye Forever

Dude! I went through the exact same thing!! And I went through 3 Endos and 2 Urologist’s and they only wanted injections once every 2 weeks,which my levels would drop and I would feel like shit! So after all that,oh I about forgot,they wouldn’t even test for Estradiol either,so I decided to self medicate my trt,I found the dose that I can live with,I get bloods done several times a year,and I also get a prostate exam once a year...and I feel much better,not telling you what to do man,but the doctors around here where I live are assholes!!

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X3 Kzoo. You're not alone. These clowns, I mean doctors, are just stumbling in the dark "trying" dosages out.

They don't cover hormone therapy in med school to any real degree. Everyone is in super CYA mode right now b/c of all the ridiculous press out there on AAS and its dangers.

People on the forums talk about crap advice because of "broscience", well in the real world of Endos and TRT it's crap dosages, protocols, and self-preservation mode all based on "doc-science".

They don't know. They are scared to screw up. So, they prescribe the test dosages of a six year old girl and take a wait and see approach that takes six months of monthly bloodwork and you negotiating with them like your trying to "rent their wife". It is a ridiculous sham.

I deal with it for the script but I count on BOP for my actual gear and real answers to my questions. I have had it with quackery.

**Delta5** · 01-26-2018, 08:52 PM

This is why I am my own doctor

**babybull34** · 01-26-2018, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by Delta5

This is why I am my own doctor

Amen to that, Delta. With a degree from Stack of Iron University

**Sam Gold** · 01-26-2018, 09:11 PM

Ao good way to hit a doctor back when they make changes like that is to ask "What is your rationale behind that?" High RBC, H&H just means you need to donate blood or have a prescription for therapeutic blood draws. Depending on your insurance you can just fire his ass, go see a new doctor and say these are my medications and I did not like the care I was getting from my last doctor or his office staff was rude as hell.

Then you can always just order if off one of the BOP sponsors and DIY and get bloodwork done at the doctor to see where you are once a year or bloodwork in a private lab, depending on what state you are in.

**babybull34** · 01-26-2018, 09:46 PM

Originally Posted by Sam Gold

Ao good way to hit a doctor back when they make changes like that is to ask "What is your rationale behind that?" High RBC, H&H just means you need to donate blood or have a prescription for therapeutic blood draws. Depending on your insurance you can just fire his ass, go see a new doctor and say these are my medications and I did not like the care I was getting from my last doctor or his office staff was rude as hell.

Then you can always just order if off one of the BOP sponsors and DIY and get bloodwork done at the doctor to see where you are once a year or bloodwork in a private lab, depending on what state you are in.

Wise words, Sam. This is what I do and recommend for TRT. Get the legit script and access to blood work, my State won't allow it without a script, and then handle your business on BOP.