New to TRT, more questions than before I started

**Wrenchhead80** · 11-03-2018, 12:42 AM

Originally Posted by Delta5

Im out of this one. Wrench, Danx...if you want a copy...pm me your email. Wrench...u need a copy.

Wasn't going to bother responding to you but that last comment...

Lmao, I need a copy... so I can sound like someone that doesn't know much? No thanks

See you still don't understand what SHBG is or how you utilize your number to find a protocol that works for your number. You apparently think having a low number is strictly troublesome. It's not. There's pros and cons to having both slightly low or slightly high. I'm not going to waste my time explaining them to you though with your attitude.

Keep sticking with your daily dose is the best thing ever too. Its a good way for others to know you don't know much about trt. Some people naturally have low estrogen and being on a protocol that bumps it up a little helps them feel better. That's another reason why daily is not right for all. Your probably one of those people that think estrogen is a bad thing for men and should be driven low.

Anyways I'm done with you too.

**Danx43** · 11-03-2018, 01:32 AM

This thread went off the rails it seems. I didn't mean for it to. I started test to feel better as I had all the symptoms of low T and felt like shit. A couple weeks in and felt no change so wanted some advice from people who know more about it than I do. Yes I fucked up and didn't get my estrogen levels tested first. My T levels were in the normal range but on the low end so it seemed to make sense to me to try trt. It didn't work. I developed symptoms of high estrogen and tried Arimidex which I found out the hard way I have a bad reaction to. I'm either allergic or just very sensitive to that medication. It's been about 30 hours and I'm still having hot flashes, flushing, tremors, etc. Not as bad now, seems to be wearing off some. But I know the half life is around 50 hours so by this time tomorrow I should be much better. Tomorrow is also my pinning day, but I'm not going to pin anymore. Glad I worked outside in the cold last night, kept the burning skin from being so annoying. I have the same flushing and burning skin reaction to Niacin, but that wears off after about 2 hours. This is just hanging on. It sucks but it will pass.

My main question with this thread was why didn't I feel any change being on 250mg of test per week and if I quit should I use any type of pct or have I not been on it long enough. Pretty sure both questions were answered, of course I got conflicting answers so I've decided to just stop everything and wait it out until my body goes back to my normal levels and continue to feel like shit without having to stab myself in the leg twice a week.

There was also talk about me having mild weight gain, but I didn't have any weight gain while on test. 5-6 months ago I was up to 240lbs, change my diet and started going to the gym and brought that down to 220. Injured my shoulder and it slowed down my weight loss.

I appreciate the responses from the helpful people, but the ones who just tell me I don't know enough and I'm going to ruin my life should just keep their opinions to themselves if they don't have anything helpful to add. I've stopped and I won't be starting again so no one has to try to convince me through fear tactics that I shouldn't be on test.

**Wrenchhead80** · 11-03-2018, 03:08 AM

"I appreciate the responses from the helpful people, but the ones who just tell me I don't know enough and I'm going to ruin my life should just keep their opinions to themselves if they don't have anything helpful to add. I've stopped and I won't be starting again so no one has to try to convince me through fear tactics that I shouldn't be on test."

Glad I didn't spend the time in telling you what labs you should get and why, and no one used "fear tactics" on you. We tried warning you this is not "wing it" type stuff. You clearly didn't know enough. That's why you made yourself feel worse or no better and why you decided to stop.

Fear tactics... I didn't even mention if you knew what your RBC, hemoglobin and hematocrit numbers were or if you even had them taken before you started pinning yourself. Also if your blood pressure was okay before starting and has it gone up since starting your just wing it protocol.

I could answer your future questions but I'm quessing I'm one of the "keep my opinions to myself people." Lol

I'm done with this thread

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**Danx43** · 11-03-2018, 03:59 AM

Originally Posted by Wrenchhead80

I could answer your newest questions but I'm quessing I'm one of the "keep my opinions to myself people." Lol

I'm done with this thread

That's probably best. After reading back my last response, I didn't ask any new questions. I don't have any more questions. So feel free to not answer the new questions I didn't ask.

**Wrenchhead80** · 11-03-2018, 04:18 AM

Originally Posted by Danx43

That's probably best. After reading back my last response, I didn't ask any new questions. I don't have any more questions. So feel free to not answer the new questions I didn't ask.

I edited, meant newest "future" questions of why I feel like crap ect, smart ass. Cause I'm sure your not going to be feeling better anytime soon.

I'll just quietly watch this thread for future laughs.

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**Danx43** · 11-03-2018, 04:28 AM

Originally Posted by Wrenchhead80

I edited, meant newest "future" questions of why I feel like crap ect, smart ass. Cause I'm sure your not going to be feeling better anytime soon.

I'll just quietly watch this thread for future laughs.

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True, I haven't felt good for a few years so there's no reason to think I'd feel better anytime soon. Obviously testosterone isn't the reason I feel bad so there would be no point in asking non trt or steroid questions here. And I'm glad you can find amusement by hearing about someone suffering while you sit back and act like an elitist prick because you think you know more than everyone else. You said you're done with this thread and that you're going to sit quietly, so do everyone a favor and keep your word.

**1969jeffery1969** · 11-03-2018, 04:37 AM

Originally Posted by Danx43

True, I haven't felt good for a few years so there's no reason to think I'd feel better anytime soon. Obviously testosterone isn't the reason I feel bad so there would be no point in asking non trt or steroid questions here. And I'm glad you can find amusement by hearing about someone suffering while you sit back and act like an elitist prick because you think you know more than everyone else. You said you're done with this thread and that you're going to sit quietly, so do everyone a favor and keep your word.

Are you depressed?

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**Danx43** · 11-03-2018, 04:42 AM

Originally Posted by 1969jeffery1969

Are you depressed?

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Among many other things.

**Wrenchhead80** · 11-03-2018, 04:43 AM

Originally Posted by Danx43

True, I haven't felt good for a few years so there's no reason to think I'd feel better anytime soon. Obviously testosterone isn't the reason I feel bad so there would be no point in asking non trt or steroid questions here. And I'm glad you can find amusement by hearing about someone suffering while you sit back and act like an elitist prick because you think you know more than everyone else. You said you're done with this thread and that you're going to sit quietly, so do everyone a favor and keep your word.

Here's a idea, stop mentioning me and saying stupid shit and I won't comment back. I never said or acted as if I knew everything, it just felt that way to you because I know so much more then you probably.

As far a laughing at people who don't feel good. Nope, don't do that. I try helping people. But someone like you that I try to help and you get all mad because you made yourself worse yet get pissed with me bringing it to your attention. Yeah I find your type funny. Your still clueless to your own problems.

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