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Originally Posted by
DEFYTHEGODS
order some TB 500, or BPC 157.
might want to throw in some GHRP as well.
I dislocated my shoulder in 08, after two (3) month runs with TB 500, my shoulder stopped burning out in the gym after heavy exercise, and it stopped slipping around in the socket. the stuff works, but i'm sure not for everyone. did me though. like a charm. it's locationally injected, so take your pic. when i get it next time it's going in my lower back and legs.
I’m about to do this actually! Thanks man. Ghrp6 too for some meal fun
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You can. Most feel good on deca because of its effects on progesterone, which make your joints feel great. But deca can also Inc prolactin in higher doses which can have a negative effect on thyroid and T. Might wasn’t to add cabergoline to the mix.
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Originally Posted by
Orange24
I’m about to do this actually! Thanks man. Ghrp6 too for some meal fun
But not at 200mg
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Originally Posted by
DEFYTHEGODS
someone told me this. i really felt it was some good advice. hope this isn't considered plagiarizing. not sure they'd want their site names revealed
Running Therapuetic dosages of
Deca is very common and has been practiced for years . I've had Deca prescribed to me by a Doctor for this purpose. Other guys on these forums have as well.
yes you can run it year round with your TRT and get many benefits. you shouldn't get any prolactin sides either at these low dosages 100-200mg per week
deca also has 1.5 times the
Anabolic strength and binding affinity as test does. so it will help you hold onto more muscle as well its joint, anti-inflammatory, and healing properties
I normally don't provide advice on
anabolic steroids beyond traditional TRT, but since both
Deca Durabolin(
Nandrolone Decanoate) is often combined with TRT for the effects you describe, I feel it's worth commenting on an important potential side-effect that you should monitor and control. All of the nandrolone derivatives have progestin-like activity, which means they bind to feminizing progesterone receptors in addition to
androgenicreceptors.
Therefore, it is EXTREMELY important that you closely monitor and control E levels. Borderline high E levels by themselves will not cause
gynecomastia , but when combined with compounds that have progesterone activity, your changes of developing gynecomastia are greatly increased. This is what happens during the 3rd trimester of pregnancy when the placenta produces high levels of both of these hormones which stimulates rapid development of the mammary glands.
I believe this is why some guys are more sensitive to E with normal TRT than others. At some point in their life, they were exposed to both high E2 and higher than normal P4 and they began to develop some rudimentary mammary glands. Once E2 and P4 return to normal, they live relatively normal lives, but when they are re-exposed to higher E2 (as is normal with TRT), they begin to develop symptoms of gynecomastia, even without secondary P4 stimulation. Often, this occurs in guys who have done short "experimental" cycles of nandrolone (Deca) without paying attention to E levels.
How low do you need to keep E levels during a Deca cycle? I have no idea, but I would definitely not let it go past mid-range and I would monitor it closely with labs. Perhaps other guys with more experience with AAS could offer better advice on the precise levels of E that you should strive for.
Therapeutic? Like how do you go to your Dr and ask for Deca for therapeutic reasons? What did you tell him bc I’d love to be prescribed Deca.
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Originally Posted by
JimmyMcFistacuff
Good info.
JMcF.
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i try to learn what i can from guys like this. it's just hard because my questions out pace my ability to translate the information into something i can act on in a sustainable way, but I've actually improved albeit my fitness pal is literally my Achilles' heel and was the key to my loosing 28lb. also is the key to me being able to manage my weight year round. up or down.
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Originally Posted by
thebear
You can. Most feel good on deca because of its effects on progesterone, which make your joints feel great. But deca can also Inc prolactin in higher doses which can have a negative effect on thyroid and T. Might wasn’t to add cabergoline to the mix.
I've been at 400mg per week now and no prolactin issues, BUT my test has been at 125mg/week. that's probably why i've got no prolactin issues. not taking an AI or DA (dopamine agonist.) i want to up the test, but i need to check and see if it's better to just up the deca instead.
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Originally Posted by
DEFYTHEGODS
order some TB 500, or BPC 157.
might want to throw in some GHRP as well.
I dislocated my shoulder in 08, after two (3) month runs with TB 500, my shoulder stopped burning out in the gym after heavy exercise, and it stopped slipping around in the socket. the stuff works, but i'm sure not for everyone. did me though. like a charm. it's locationally injected, so take your pic. when i get it next time it's going in my lower back and legs.
What was your protocol for the TB 500?
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i actually forgot and it wasn't recorded anywhere. all my stuff now is recorded. when i do my research i use google and world of peptides. here's my break out for the current peptides. i'm not sure what the typical dose of TB is. better find that before you start.
Formula: Amount of total peptide in mcg/ Amount Desired per Unit in mcg= amount of water needed in units |
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COUNT YOUR DESIRED TICKS AND DIVIDE YOUR MCG DESIRED PER DOSE BY IT BEFORE YOU DO THE ABOVE FORMULA. |
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CJC 1295 w DAC |
mcg vial |
desired mcg per tick in .5ml syringe |
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desired tick draw |
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added h2o in units of syringe used |
mls |
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CJC 1295 w DAC |
600mcg per week |
2,000 |
20 |
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30 |
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100 of those units |
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1 |
ml |
600mcg per week |
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GHRP-2 |
mcg vial |
desired mcg per tick in .5ml syringe |
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desired tick draw |
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added h2o in units of syringe used |
mls |
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GHRP-2 |
80 mcg 3X per day |
5,000 |
20 |
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4 |
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250 of those units |
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1.5 |
ml |
80 mcg 3X per day |
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BPC 157 |
mcg vial |
desired mcg per tick in .5ml syringe |
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desired tick draw |
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added h2o in units of syringe used |
mls |
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BPC 157 |
250 MCG |
5,000 |
50 |
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5 |
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100 of those units |
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1 |
ml |
250 MCG |
It blows my mind how regimented I've been... can't believe it. My fitness pal and the medisafe app changed the entire game for me.
the goal right now is to be done with all my calories by 6pm tonight, then i can take my glucose disposal agents and then i can take my peptides...
Last edited by DEFYTHEGODS; 01-13-2019 at 08:17 PM.
Too-$mall
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Personally if you did, I would moniter e2 closely but also prolactin. Which if gets too high with shit your thyroid down. Take caber to balance Tren and deca
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Two things:
1) If you want to be prescribed Deca, you can check out one of those anti aging clinics. I believe Palumbo has a video of him being prescribed 400mgs of Deca on top of his TRT.
2) I have a close friend who competes and he cruises on 1g Test and 600mg of Deca. Would I do this for normal everyday reasons? No. He is a fairly top competitor who does this for a living.
Personally, I’ve used 200-300mg with 250-300mg of Test on a cruise. I felt great. I prefer just using HGH with Test, but I’ll probably do it again this next cruise. Over here living my best life!
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