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Originally Posted by
Buddhabuilder
When I'm cruising I pin 90mg of Robolics Test E once a week and my bloods are consistently around 850......
Does E vs C make a difference? I thought it was just different rates you metabolize it?
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Originally Posted by
Tacos
It was prescribed by the urologist my estrogen was 26 with the last labs. It was 83 6 weeks ago when I was taking 1/2mg twice a week.
Oh I read 2 milligrams once a week. Maybe you must be a high converter. If you break up your injections you could possibly lower it without and AI.
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Originally Posted by
Tacos
Does E vs C make a difference? I thought it was just different rates you metabolize it?
Theres hardly a difference, C is more equal to your natural test that's why doctors use it.
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Look up the half like of Test Cyp. 100mg every week to get you to 360, your test from the start must have been in the double digits. I'm a big believer in self advocating when it comes to doctors and wont leave a doctors office until I get what I want or a compromise that will benefit me. Push for that 200mg of cyp per week. Bring in paperwork on half lives and what the normal Total AND FREE testosterone should be for at your age. Also the adex, same thing .5mg to 1mg per day due to half lives. Your hormones are on a roller coaster ride. Stable blood plasma levels yields the best results for what you are looking for.
You could always go the other route, there are PLENTY of good sponsors on here, grab a few bottles of TC yourself and do the dose you feel is working for you. But that's just my .02 going that route.
I tried the TRT starting with the gel, then the cream, then the office visit shots, to take home.......finally I gave up and was honest with the doctor after printing out every pubmed article I could find that was related to TRT and said it'd be easier for me to obtain TC illegally and NOT have my insurance pay these doctors visits etc. And was bumped up to 400mg of Sandoz Test Cyp @ 400mg per week. I break it up and do 200/200 every 4th day. Seemed as if when it came to the $ these doctors get paid via the insurance companies being put in jepordy, there attitude towards giving things out changes drastically.
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Originally Posted by
BombdotCom
Oh I read 2 milligrams once a week. Maybe you must be a high converter. If you break up your injections you could possibly lower it without and AI.
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Horrible conversion. I got gyno from just clomid trying to boost natural production with the urologist.
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Originally Posted by
Goof321
Look up the half like of Test Cyp. 100mg every week to get you to 360, your test from the start must have been in the double digits. I'm a big believer in self advocating when it comes to doctors and wont leave a doctors office until I get what I want or a compromise that will benefit me. Push for that 200mg of cyp per week. Bring in paperwork on half lives and what the normal Total AND FREE testosterone should be for at your age. Also the adex, same thing .5mg to 1mg per day due to half lives. Your hormones are on a roller coaster ride. Stable blood plasma levels yields the best results for what you are looking for.
You could always go the other route, there are PLENTY of good sponsors on here, grab a few bottles of TC yourself and do the dose you feel is working for you. But that's just my .02 going that route.
I tried the TRT starting with the gel, then the cream, then the office visit shots, to take home.......finally I gave up and was honest with the doctor after printing out every pubmed article I could find that was related to TRT and said it'd be easier for me to obtain TC illegally and NOT have my insurance pay these doctors visits etc. And was bumped up to 400mg of Sandoz Test Cyp @ 400mg per week. I break it up and do 200/200 every 4th day. Seemed as if when it came to the $ these doctors get paid via the insurance companies being put in jepordy, there attitude towards giving things out changes drastically.
I have tried everything and the urologist told me she deals with all of urology and this was a very small part of it and to go to a men's clinic. I don't want to drive 2 hours to go to a men's clinic that doesn't take insurance and will only sell you prescriptions. So my research brought me here. I have an appointment with my family doctor where I will ask for a referral to another and hope for help.
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Just get some Robolics gear and do your own bloods. Post them here for guidance and feedback....
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I think what he/we are saying is on that dose and spread out, that AI will crash you if you keep taking 1mg 2x wk
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Originally Posted by
Tacos
I have tried everything and the urologist told me she deals with all of urology and this was a very small part of it and to go to a men's clinic. I don't want to drive 2 hours to go to a men's clinic that doesn't take insurance and will only sell you prescriptions. So my research brought me here. I have an appointment with my family doctor where I will ask for a referral to another and hope for help.
Go the UG route brother, you wont regret it. Monitor your bloodwork through your PCP and you can always post results here and get some REAL EXPERT advice from more than just one doctor.....youll have a whole board of good ppl with extensive knowledge who WONT steer you in the wrong direction.......
ontop of it all, you'll save yourself a whole lot of $ in the long run. Go domestic, and you wont have any issues.
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Originally Posted by
Goof321
Go the UG route brother, you wont regret it. Monitor your bloodwork through your PCP and you can always post results here and get some REAL EXPERT advice from more than just one doctor.....youll have a whole board of good ppl with extensive knowledge who WONT steer you in the wrong direction.......
ontop of it all, you'll save yourself a whole lot of $ in the long run. Go domestic, and you wont have any issues.
That is the plan. I would like to keep a valid script for reasons tho.
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