TRT cutting me off ?????? advice needed

[Spartanguy1969]

So I've been on TRT for 18 years, 200 every 10 days. This has put me around total 600-700 level. I get my bloods for my yearly appt and my hct, hb, and rbc are high so the Dr. tells me to stop taking the test for a month. I hydrated, gave blood and cut back on iron rich foods and had the levels taken again and they came back to normal. During the month I am dead, no strength, total sluggish, no libido, no boners you know the rest. I get my level 5 weeks without TRT and free test is 24 and total is 182. The Dr says wait another 3 weeks and repeat. Free is 28 and total is 220. He tells me hes not going to give me the TRT anymore since the level is good without it..... IS HE NUTS ?????? I said how I feel off of it and he said that it will take time to adjust but its better for me.

Just a background. Like I said I've been on it 18 years. I add var, winny, and tren hex 2 times a year for cycles. Stopped all in OCT.

I know you aren't Drs. but I do value your experience and advice. What do you think? I had a ton of other bloods and tests and all were good. Let me know any other questions. I really want to get this right.


Here is the cycle I do 2x a year... Not right now since bloods are off. This is just to show what I do....
Cycle would be

300 test cyp every 7 days
50 var split
100 tren hex every 7
aromasin during 12.5 every 3 days

clomid and nolvadex after

Any help will be appreciated.

[maxmuscle1]

So I've been on TRT for 18 years, 200 every 10 days. This has put me around total 600-700 level. I get my bloods for my yearly appt and my hct, hb, and rbc are high so the Dr. tells me to stop taking the test for a month. I hydrated, gave blood and cut back on iron rich foods and had the levels taken again and they came back to normal. During the month I am dead, no strength, total sluggish, no libido, no boners you know the rest. I get my level 5 weeks without TRT and free test is 24 and total is 182. The Dr says wait another 3 weeks and repeat. Free is 28 and total is 220. He tells me hes not going to give me the TRT anymore since the level is good without it..... IS HE NUTS ?????? I said how I feel off of it and he said that it will take time to adjust but its better for me.

Just a background. Like I said I've been on it 18 years. I add var, winny, and tren hex 2 times a year for cycles. Stopped all in OCT.

I know you aren't Drs. but I do value your experience and advice. What do you think? I had a ton of other bloods and tests and all were good. Let me know any other questions. I really want to get this right.

Cycle would be

300 test cyp every 7 days
50 var split
100 tren hex every 7
aromasin during 12.5 every 3 days

clomid and nolvadex after

Any help will be appreciated.

I would get copies of bloods from him. Go to new doctor(urologist/or men’s health). Tell them exactly what you told him. Be nice. Another doctor may help you out. Those are low. Total shit! Bastard! Sorry my man.

Max

[thebear]

Confused? You went from TRT what do I do, to here’s my next cycle?

Get your TRT situated. Who’s knows why. New insurance laws, irrational thinking during this time etc etc. Who cares!

You know it’s not normal. Maybe he felt that you were Med seeking, I don’t know. Get your labs and see another Md. It sucks for sure but it will work out.

What’s odd though is you took one month off and felt that bad.

I always take 1 month off 2x a yr to give my receptors a break and always feel great, refreshed etc. Never had those symptoms. Not saying you didn’t.

[robthomas]

I don’t know why your trying to blast at this point with your panel out of wack . If you can’t make gains on trt there a problem in its self


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[maxmuscle1]

I think he was affected mentally and physically. That long on any medication should never be cut off; tapering yes but, that doctor isn’t listening. Trt is not for getting in shape or buff. Trt is male hormone replacement and affects every single part of your being. If my sex drive went down, energy down, and I was feeling depressed; I would get back on no matter what. Just MO.

Max

[Spartanguy1969]

No thats not what I said. I said I'm on TRT and add the cycle in 2x a year. I posted the cycle at end for reference. Never had an issue for 15 years. No hes been my DR for 15+ years and I know when to stop prior to levels of test before appts. so not hes not thinking med seeking. levels always in proper range when he tests. Its actually cheaper to get from our sponsors than the ********.
Started feeling tired and rest about 3 weeks after last shot... I wish I could take a break and feel great but unfortunately don't.

Thx for advice

Confused? You went from TRT what do I do, to here’s my next cycle?

Get your TRT situated. Who’s knows why. New insurance laws, irrational thinking during this time etc etc. Who cares!

You know it’s not normal. Maybe he felt that you were Med seeking, I don’t know. Get your labs and see another Md. It sucks for sure but it will work out.

What’s odd though is you took one month off and felt that bad.

I always take 1 month off 2x a yr to give my receptors a break and always feel great, refreshed etc. Never had those symptoms. Not saying you didn’t.

[Spartanguy1969]

Not doing cycle now, Just posted it to say what I do 2x a year with the TRT. Last cycle ended in OCT. No intention of starting until get bloods straight.

I don’t know why your trying to blast at this point with your panel out of wack . If you can’t make gains on trt there a problem in its self


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[Spartanguy1969]

Thanks Max.. I am 50 and like I said been on this a long time... The honestly I have suggested the tests to the endocrinologist over the years and he has agreed. Not sure what hes thinking but I trust you guys more than him. I'm in healthcare myself and researched the bloods and saw the ways to lower the HCT and RBC without him suggesting anything.
Test affects so much and max you are right.... Just like too much causes things , too little does also...

I think he was affected mentally and physically. That long on any medication should never be cut off; tapering yes but, that doctor isn’t listening. Trt is not for getting in shape or buff. Trt is male hormone replacement and affects every single part of your being. If my sex drive went down, energy down, and I was feeling depressed; I would get back on no matter what. Just MO.

Max

[maxmuscle1]

Thanks Max.. I am 50 and like I said been on this a long time... The honestly I have suggested the tests to the endocrinologist over the years and he has agreed. Not sure what hes thinking but I trust you guys more than him. I'm in healthcare myself and researched the bloods and saw the ways to lower the HCT and RBC without him suggesting anything.
Test affects so much and max you are right.... Just like too much causes things , too little does also...

Yes sir! I wish you the best and totally understand.

Max

[Mikeyz206]

That would be the last time I would ever see that Dr. I would follow what Max said. I don't know about anybody else. But I feel better not seeing any Dr.get your own bloods through private MD labs. Best of luck to you!