Thread: TRT and NO AIs Needed!

Thanks bear for posting those! I haven’t been through all of them but plan on it. I watched the first 15 min or so of the first one and I’m in complete agreement. I’ve been on TRT for over 5 years and with a couple of very competent docs and never once has any of them even mentioned e2 or treating estradiol levels. At TRT doses I just don’t see the need—but I’m no expert.

I think alot depends on the person. Many seem not to need it while others do. I know just about every trt clinic uses at least .5-1mg per week of arimidex. I have used so much under a docs advice that I crashed my estrogen and self medicated the dosages with forum advice. i think i am where i should be now at 60 for estrogen on the test thy give for bloods.

Here is my trt

Been on trt Since February 2019. I have also done two cycles test only. My doc originally when i was on clomid for low t but with trying to start a family had me on 1mg arimidex a day. did not get sides from the ai, but it crashed my estrogen under 7. At the time i thought that was good but found out that was very bad. Dryness of joints was something i was told about but really did not see it. It was while on clomid someone mentioned to me 1mg 3 times a week and it was still under 7. Then i started taking 1mg 2 times a week and it would come it at like 30, which i was told is an ok area for it to be.

When I went on the test at first i was on 1mg two times a week and it was like 11 so I just totally did not take it for my next bloods which were six months later. For that my trt does was 200mg every 7 days instead of 150 every 10 days. I just did not take Ai at all. When I did my bloods my test was over 1200 ( they did not get free for some reason I will make sure that is on there next time) and estrogen was like 60 which might be high? As of now i went back on .5mg twice a week.

I was supposed to start a cycle in marsh test and eq, but we have covid 19 and gyms are closed and I have no home equipment. My next trt appointment is the end of September. I will either be getting my appointment moved back and do test and eq or using short esters like test pp or prop and npp for like 10-12 weeks and maybe an oral kicker.

Originally Posted by bulldogger

I think alot depends on the person. Many seem not to need it while others do. I know just about every trt clinic uses at least .5-1mg per week of arimidex. I have used so much under a docs advice that I crashed my estrogen and self medicated the dosages with forum advice. i think i am where i should be now at 60 for estrogen on the test thy give for bloods.

Here is my trt

Been on trt Since February 2019. I have also done two cycles test only. My doc originally when i was on clomid for low t but with trying to start a family had me on 1mg arimidex a day. did not get sides from the ai, but it crashed my estrogen under 7. At the time i thought that was good but found out that was very bad. Dryness of joints was something i was told about but really did not see it. It was while on clomid someone mentioned to me 1mg 3 times a week and it was still under 7. Then i started taking 1mg 2 times a week and it would come it at like 30, which i was told is an ok area for it to be.

When I went on the test at first i was on 1mg two times a week and it was like 11 so I just totally did not take it for my next bloods which were six months later. For that my trt does was 200mg every 7 days instead of 150 every 10 days. I just did not take Ai at all. When I did my bloods my test was over 1200 ( they did not get free for some reason I will make sure that is on there next time) and estrogen was like 60 which might be high? As of now i went back on .5mg twice a week.

I was supposed to start a cycle in marsh test and eq, but we have covid 19 and gyms are closed and I have no home equipment. My next trt appointment is the end of September. I will either be getting my appointment moved back and do test and eq or using short esters like test pp or prop and npp for like 10-12 weeks and maybe an oral kicker.

If e2 is high, physiological it should be when test goes up that high. But TRt is find a physiological range not 1200. If someone needs an AI on TRT, I would say lower the dose of Test.

I've always ran 150mg / week test C with 12.5 mg Exem once a week. That put me around 1000 total T. I began to experience bad back acne. My bloods showed my e2 as slightly elevated so assumed that was the cause. I recently switched to daily Test P injections with no Exem and Wow! Acne completely gone and I feel unbelievable, like when I first started treatment 3 years ago. Total T is 1200 so am slightly dropping my dose.

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Originally Posted by thebear

If e2 is high, physiological it should be when test goes up that high. But TRt is find a physiological range not 1200. If someone needs an AI on TRT, I would say lower the dose of Test.

How is that 60 estroidil number? I will probalby most my bloods. I do recall red blood cells and hemocrit and hemoglobin were high, but just barely.

Originally Posted by bulldogger

How is that 60 estroidil number? I will probalby most my bloods. I do recall red blood cells and hemocrit and hemoglobin were high, but just barely.

It seems a Burt right with a 1200 test. But, IMO, 1200 is not a physiological range nor TRT. That’s why you need the AI.

If you dropped to 150mg let’s say, your T would drop to a physiological range, and you would most likely not need AI.

I pin 100mg. Yes I would love more, and I do when I blast. But it’s nice and easy on my system, I roll in around 700 for TT and no AI needed.