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Anyone blast NPP(deca) and used Caber?
50 years old....TRT for 3 years....have blasted test with proviron....have blasted test and Var.
Looking at blasting to add quality muscle. Don’t want bloat.
12 weeks:
NPP (100mg/EOD)=300/week
Test P (100mg/EOD)=300/week
Test C (my TRT dose of 200mg/week)
Proviron 50-75/day
Maybe Anavar 50-75mcg/day last 6-8 weeks
I don’t fully understand why test P (short ester) is more effective but whatever. Seems my research says it is but whatever.
Can anyone with experience recommend if I need the caber (cabergoline) for prolactin that many people take with deca and sometimes NPP?
If so, I’ve never seen the caber on sponsor sites but maybe just haven’t looked hard enough.
Thoughts about any of this especially the caber?
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Anyone blast NPP(deca) and used Caber?
I doubt it on 300mg but I have been wrong before! .25-.5mg 2x a week is decent Caber dose for high prolactin but; 100-200mg P5P oughta do okay. Water is another story! Diet/AI and all that. I embrace the water when bulking but; if you want a lean look; watch your e2, sodium and high water intake. Aas make you retain sodium, minerals, water....and muscle!
Max
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Thanks, Max—
1) Do you think 300mg of NPP is enough?
2) This is the second time today I’ve heard of p5p. (B6) what purpose does that serve with this cycle? Does it help with prolactin?
3) Is caber OTC?
4) I really don’t want to get bloated. My diet is very tight, consistent and solid. Not a problem. But fear I’ll look like a balloon possibly and don’t want that for that look nor want suspicion. Any other ideas to substitute the NPP? Maybe should just run test, proviron, and Anavar.
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Originally Posted by
rocknroll
Thanks, Max—
1) Do you think 300mg of NPP is enough?
2) This is the second time today I’ve heard of p5p. (B6) what purpose does that serve with this cycle? Does it help with prolactin?
3) Is caber OTC?
4) I really don’t want to get bloated. My diet is very tight, consistent and solid. Not a problem. But fear I’ll look like a balloon possibly and don’t want that for that look nor want suspicion. Any other ideas to substitute the NPP? Maybe should just run test, proviron, and Anavar.
1.. yes
2.yes(just better metabolized form of b-6)
3. No
4. If you have the money but, Provi and Var even at 50mg/80mg won’t do what 300Npp{cheap} will do. Still like Provi in their for sure
Max
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Run the proviron at 25mg x2 entire time
Run the var at 50-75mg entire time (split dose)
P5P 50-100mg every night.
Have an AI on hand if needed.
Caber is not OTC.
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I ran NPP at 450 a week? Roughly, and was able to keep prolactin in check with P5P at 100mg nightly. I was also on Mast and Proviron. I made an attempt to stay extra dry because I was worried about controlling prolactin. I didnt get any more water retention then testosterone does to me anyway.
Nice full muscles. Loved it. My next blast I'm going to run just NPP and Test. But I will have Caber on hand this time. I think itll he different with out all the dry compounds
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Originally Posted by
Shawn4425
I ran NPP at 450 a week? Roughly, and was able to keep prolactin in check with P5P at 100mg nightly. I was also on Mast and Proviron. I made an attempt to stay extra dry because I was worried about controlling prolactin. I didnt get any more water retention then testosterone does to me anyway.
Nice full muscles. Loved it. My next blast I'm going to run just NPP and Test. But I will have Caber on hand this time. I think itll he different with out all the dry compounds
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Thanks, Shawn.
I’m considering just doing the NPP and test and not the others but I have them so will be hard to restrain.
Part of me is now intrigued by Equipoise. If you have any insight into that compound please let me know. I’m obviously still in the research mode.
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Originally Posted by
rocknroll
Thanks, Shawn.
I’m considering just doing the NPP and test and not the others but I have them so will be hard to restrain.
Part of me is now intrigued by Equipoise. If you have any insight into that compound please let me know. I’m obviously still in the research mode.
I'm not educated on EQ. It's funny you say this because I initially thought of running EQ before I decided on NPP. Theres nothing wrong with what you're trying to run. From what I see EQ takes a very long time before you start to see results. NPP is fast(er). I saw big changes in 4wks.
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Gotcha, Shawn. Definitely seems it’s take awhile and seems one has to run rather high doses for awhile to get full effects. Looking at cost of that at say, 600-800 mg/week would add up pretty quick.
Also, seems it might also mess with my bloods next draw if I have to rumor first so long and it takes awhile to clear.
I think I’ll stick with NPP. I just want to avoid bloat but my diet is solid so should be ok.
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