Thread: Greetings TRT Therapy Issues

I’ve been on TRT for about a year with not very good results. I take the gel twice a day at I believe 150mg. I was applying it at first to my love handles had my test drop well bellow 150. Sorry just rounding numbers. Then I was prescribed to apply it twice a day to my inner legs. It dingo up to over 300. However I can count on one hand the amount of days that I actually felt better. I’m having high anxiety, jealousy, and have a hard time getting or maintaining an erection. I’m 51 and all of a sudden I’ve got problems now in the last 60 days. I’m recovering from my 3 rd spinal cord injury and take large doses of gabapentin. Last month the thought was my estrogen levels were high so I was put on a blocker. I take it one a week.
Has anyone had any issues like this with TRT? Thanks for reading my novel

Originally Posted by MM800

I’ve been on TRT for about a year with not very good results. I take the gel twice a day at I believe 150mg. I was applying it at first to my love handles had my test drop well bellow 150. Sorry just rounding numbers. Then I was prescribed to apply it twice a day to my inner legs. It dingo up to over 300. However I can count on one hand the amount of days that I actually felt better. I’m having high anxiety, jealousy, and have a hard time getting or maintaining an erection. I’m 51 and all of a sudden I’ve got problems now in the last 60 days. I’m recovering from my 3 rd spinal cord injury and take large doses of gabapentin. Last month the thought was my estrogen levels were high so I was put on a blocker. I take it one a week.
Has anyone had any issues like this with TRT? Thanks for reading my novel

I don't have any experience with the gels, but I haven't heard too many good things. A lot of people have complained. You might want to look into injections, if you can find a doctor that will work with you. I've had excellent results with injections and it's easier to, in my belief, maintain adequate blood levels throughout the week, if done correctly.
Does your doctor pull blood work on you regularly to see what those testosterone gels are actually doing in your body? Your hormone levels etc

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It’s because you are using gel. It gets trapped in subcutaneous fat later, spiking estrogen and sometimes prolactin.

Inject that 150mg (75mg 2x a wk). Then you will feel TRT!


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CBC With Differential/Platelet

NameResultReferenceInterpretationStatus
WBC
6.06 K/uL
4.00-11.00
Normal
Final

RBC
5.60 M/uL
4.30-5.70
Normal
Final

Hemoglobin
17.1 g/dL
13.7-16.7
High
Final

Hematocrit
50.3 %
40.0-50.0
High
Final

MCV
89.8 fL
80.0-100.0
Normal
Final

MCH
30.5 pg
27.0-34.0
Normal
Final

MCHC
34.0 g/dL
31.5-35.7
Normal
Final

RDW
12.4 %
11.0-15.0
Normal
Final

Platelets
171 K/uL
150-400
Normal
Final
MEAN PLATELET VOLUME 9.6 fL 9.4-12.4 N


Neutrophils
47.9 %
40.0-80.0
Normal
Final

Lymphs
42.1 %
15.0-45.0
Normal
Final

Monocytes
7.8 %
0.0-12.0
Normal
Final

Eos
1.5 %
0.0-7.0
Normal
Final

Basos
0.5 %
0.0-2.0
Normal
Final

Neutrophils (Absolute)
2.91 k/uL
2.00-7.30
Normal
Final

Lymphs (Absolute)
2.55 K/uL
1.00-3.40
Normal
Final

Monocytes(Absolute)
0.47 K/uL
0.00-0.80
Normal
Final

Eos (Absolute)
0.09 K/uL
0.00-0.50
Normal
Final

Baso (Absolute)
0.03 K/uL
0.00-0.10
Normal
Final

Immature Granulocytes
0.2 %
0.0-1.0
Normal
Final

Immature Grans (Abs)
0.01 K/uL
0.00-0.05
Normal
Final

Hematology Comments:



Final
DIFFERENTIAL TYPE Automated
NUCLEATED RBC, % AUTO 0.0 /100 WBC 0.0-1.0 N
NUCLEATED RBC, ABS AUTO 0.00 K/uL 0.00-0.01 N

Comp. Metabolic Panel (14)

NameResultReferenceInterpretationStatus
Glucose
94 mg/dL
65-99
Normal
Final

BUN
18 mg/dL
8-25
Normal
Final

Creatinine
1.16 mg/dL
0.50-1.30
Normal
Final

eGFR If NonAfricn Am
> 60
>60

Final
eGFR Units: mL/min/1.73 m2
<60 Chronic kidney disease, if found
over a 3 month period
<15 Kidney failure


BUN/Creatinine Ratio
15.5
11.0 - 35.0
Normal
Final

Sodium
140 mmol/L
135-145
Normal
Final

Potassium
4.3 mmol/L
3.4-5.0
Normal
Final

Chloride
103 mmol/L
99-109
Normal
Final

Carbon Dioxide, Total
27 mmol/L
23-33
Normal
Final
ANION GAP 10 ratio 5-16 N


Calcium
9.4 mg/dL
8.5-10.2
Normal
Final

Protein, Total
6.7 g/dL
6.3-8.0
Normal
Final

Albumin
4.8 g/dL
3.5-5.0
Normal
Final

Globulin, Total
1.9 g/dL
1.8-3.5
Normal
Final

A/G Ratio
2.5 ratio
1.0-2.7
Normal
Final

Bilirubin, Total
0.4 mg/dL
0.1-1.5
Normal
Final

Alkaline Phosphatase
67 u/L
35-115
Normal
Final

AST (SGOT)
26 u/L
10-45
Normal
Final

ALT (SGPT)
25 u/L
10-65
Normal
Final

Hemoglobin A1c

NameResultReferenceInterpretationStatus
Hemoglobin A1c
5.9 %
4.0-5.6
High
Final
A1c values of 5.7-6.4% indicate an increased risk for
diabetes mellitus.
A1c values of greater than or equal to 6.5% are diagnostic
of diabetes mellitus.
The ADA recommends A1c values of less than 7% as the goal
for diabetic therapy.
EST AVG GLUCOSE(eAG) 123 mg/dL
The ADA considers an eAG result of less than 154 mg/dL to be
the goal of diabetic therapy. Estimated Average Glucose
calculated from hemoglobin A1c by use of ADA recommended
formula.

Testosterone, Serum

NameResultReferenceInterpretationStatus
Testosterone, Serum
869 ng/dL
264-916
Normal
Final
Adult male reference interval is based on a population of
healthy nonobese males (BMI <30) between 19 and 39 years old.
Travison, et.al. JCEM 2017,102;1161-1173. PMID: 28324103.

TSH

NameResultReferenceInterpretationStatus
TSH
2.420 uIU/mL
0.270-4.200
Normal
Final

Estradiol

NameResultReferenceInterpretationStatus
Estradiol
30.9 pg/mL
7.6-42.6
Normal
Final
Roche ECLIA methodology

Insulin

NameResultReferenceInterpretationStatus
Insulin
8.1 uIU/mL
2.6-24.9
Normal
Final

your getting an 869 of total test with gel????? what do you take to keep estradiol in check?

Originally Posted by Shaunsr

your getting an 869 of total test with gel????? what do you take to keep estradiol in check?

I take a Anasttrozole. .5MG a week. Generic for Arimidex

sign me up Brother as I dont think this is working

Originally Posted by JOKR

It’s because you are using gel. It gets trapped in subcutaneous fat later, spiking estrogen and sometimes prolactin.

Inject that 150mg (75mg 2x a wk). Then you will feel TRT!


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I’d highly recommend cannabis for pain or emotional issues over anything the doctors tries to push on you but if that doesn’t suffice, maybe try an SSRI (as a last resort) some of us have to take something due to imbalances

That gel stuff sucks be careful not to get it on your wife or she will grow a beard. Not joking


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Im not a big fan of cannibus I It depresses me. The THC part. The other part seems to help with my inflammation . I REALLY appreciate your input.


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