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      TRT is better if you are something wromg with testosterone.

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      trt is a growing business with doctors making a killing on it. problem is not all doctors are on the bandwagon, nor do they bother to do
      their homework when it comes to helping patients who ask about it and have proven to have low-t. this is especially true in the va,
      where the doctors have no incentive to become knowledgeable about testosterone or any other ped. trying to get them to understand
      that these drugs can improve a man's life dramatically for their well being and good is an up hill climb. sure makes it difficult, when a
      person can't go to other doctors because of it being cost prohibitive. that's sad to, bc doctors are suppose to be there to help people,
      not rob them to help them.

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      I have talked to a bunch of friends and talked them into getting labs done and looking at the possibility of needing TRT. I saved a few guys marriages and most were glad they listened to me and got it done and are know being treated or started treatment and then started getting it from a close friend that knows about taking test and who they could trust to show them how to do everything. I think over the years I have given 200 people their first shot. I had to have someone show me at one time. I am glad this is finally being talked about to bad we couldn't get hGH replacement and have insurance cover it lol

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      What issues come with it though? Production of test isn't the only thing that declines with age and I wonder if an artificially higher level of test will have a number of undesirable results.

      I hope they the answer is it's all good lol.

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      As someone who has been on numerous prohormones with little knowledge back in college, I can say that prohormones in fact have ruined my test levels. Being immature, not researching, and just plain old stupid with trying anything without pct, I paid the price. A year after stopping pro hormones, I felt depressed, low energy, suicidal and dark thoughts, and no libido. Went to my doctor. Did a blood test and discovered my test levels were at <300. (274 to be exact) total test. Free bound test was 82. He prescribed me sticky patches (androderm 4mg). After 1 year and 2 more blood tests, my total t was 313 and free bound was 66, and then 267 and 90. As you can see my levels slightly increased on the stickies and then dipped again. I was very frustrated. I was also spending $80 per RX pick up per month. My doctor explained to me that my body may not be absorbing all the the testosterone in the patches. I asked him about clomid he laughed and said I don't need that. When asked about test pins he said that would be exhausting having to come in and pin. And it's painful.

      Long story short, I sought out on my own test e. First time bumped at 500mg and then cruised at 250. Total test was 3011 and free was 1126. Normal range should be 250-1100ng/dl for total and 35-155 pg/ml for free. As you guys can see a huge difference in the efficacy and effectiveness of test pins vs gels. I really feel like you have to find a doc that's on the same page as you or thoroughly educate yourself and take things into your own hands. This was in CT at the time. Now I pin 200 mg of test e every 5 days and my latest blood test came back at 1059 for total and 355 for free. I can say that I have noticed a huge difference in my libido and overall just being able to get and erection in comparison to the patches which were at random and on and off. Far more consistent with test e. The only thing with test e is that you are getting 72 mg of test per 100 mg of inject oil. So I would recommend depending on your need to go between 200-250 for an effective dose. If anyone has any questions regarding my experiences please do ask. I believe in being totally transparent as it will help a lot of newbies and ppl transitioning to trt on their own and with a doc. My best advice is to advocate for yourself as the doctor patient relationship should be a partnering one. I've also saved a great deal in money as for the patches I was paying $960 per year. On test e $60 bucks per bottle. And one bottle lasts about 10 weeks. 52 weeks in a year would mean I was spending $300-$360 per year. Talk about ROI. Test e and test c in steady doses are the way to go. Fuck androderm.
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      Quote Originally Posted by GrimR View Post
      What issues come with it though? Production of test isn't the only thing that declines with age and I wonder if an artificially higher level of test will have a number of undesirable results.

      I hope they the answer is it's all good lol.
      Everything in life has some results and most are good and bad take women with hysterectomy and her body doesn't produce the right amount hormones anymore due to the age just like men have a lower testosterone level and growth hormone level. I am not going to say that taking artificial hormones either for a man or a woman doesn't come with some risks. But if your body is lacking the hormones male and female then you also run another set of risks. If you're on TRT or for females their own version of hormone replacement. Either way without hormone replacement you are looking at a bunch of major things that could cause health problems so there are both positive and negative. If you take the hormones there is a different set of possible risks to your health. The best thing to do is do some research and consult a couple doctors and listen to a bunch of guys on BOP that have experience and see how they feel. Is The best thing to do if you're a male, for example, is look at the risks all not having hormones versus having added hormones, then look at your family history and see how that Relates to the risks of not taking replacement hormones versus taking hormone replacement. If you're doing hormone replacement for the first time doctors will closely monitor you for several months and monetary your labs and should be taking into past Family medical history when giving their opinion on whether or not to take them or not. .. But ultimately it's a person decision and for myself, if I was 50 and overweight, have no energy with health problems bc of factors that could be changed with TRT, I would take the hormone replacement therapy and feel like I'm 21 again while altering the shape of my bodyAnd getting constant erections like 15-year-old boy. But everyone has to work these things out for themselves. it comes down to quality-of-life versus the length of your life remaining. Hormone replacement Think it's well worth it and normally a doctor would be monitoring you closely for other health related issues and possible Health issues from side effects of the medication so most people will be seeing the doctor more frequently at an older age. And speaking for myself I know when my test levels are in the shitter it sucks and hormone replacement normally isn't like a full cycle of steroids for some people on the site would consider but it's still a hell of an increase what the right doctor.

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      trt is a personal decision and a lot of guys end up being scared away by a talk with a doctor who just doesn't
      really have any knowledge about steroids or trt. when a person, like myself tries to educate them about
      testosterone and the fact that our quality of life is in the pooper due to low-t, they don't really listen.
      it's like they are so scared of using something that has been proven to be of benefit, because of all the hype
      about how dangerous it is. i also get the impression that doctors do not really want people to be "cured",
      because if you're cured you don't need to see them or be treated. just treat the symptoms and they'll
      be back. in the case of trt it is an ongoing treatment, because as we age we no longer produce the
      necessary amounts of testosterone need to give us good quality of life. in my case, at 58, i know i have low-t
      just by all the symptoms. i asked the doctor to test for it, it came back at 200 ng/dl the last time. and yet he
      still refuses to treat me. he ran other hormone levels as well. all were good except acth, which was low also.
      so along with low-t, i have adrenal insufficiency. this was almost two months ago with the va. yet, they haven't
      called or sent a letter for me to see an endocrinologist, which i have requested to see.
      this is why i ultimately ended up here, as well as on another forum. i figure the doctors, aren't as concerned
      about enhancing my quality of life as i am.
      i have done a lot of research and considered benefits versus drawbacks, and i believe the benefits in using trt
      far outweigh the cost. and even if the cost were higher, i would still do it at this point, i'd much rather live
      feeling better for the next 10 or 15 years over feeling like crap for the next 30 or so years.

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      from what i understand, the testosterone used in trt or steroids is bio-identical. thus it is the same chemical structure that we already produce. as far as the decline in other hormones as we age and rather trt will have undesirable effects. it's one of those yes and no answers. trt will affect the hypothalamus pituitary testicular axis. it will also aromatize, convert to estrogen. it can turn to dht as well, but there are treatments to help with that, which you may very well need to take even without trt. ultimately, trt is a personal chioce and each individual will have to decide rather it is right for them. don't let the doctor make your decision for you.

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      My endo STRONGLY Emphasized that trt could speed up the onset of prostate cancer as well. I haven't seen it written here, just thaught id add that in.. kinda scares me, since my uncle (blood related) has been on TRT for a couple years and found out last year he had prostate cancer. He's 64 now.. the very first thing they did was stop his TRT. he had to have it removed, but is fine now. Not trying to scare anybody, but possibly something to think about..

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      OK so I started body building 4 years ago I never cycled off I just cycled between different stuff. I took last year off and actually went off for 2 months and on for 2 months using clomid when off. I never noticed any effects of low T such as depression no energy anything like that. I am now getting ready for a competition in june 2017 bulking now until feb then cut. I plan on this being my last competition. I am currently 39 years old and just want to compete at the masters level (40) then be done. so my question. am i fucked now never going off the first 3 years? I know every person is different but opinions are welcome. Thanks guys

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