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so do you think clomid for pct could be dangerous?
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Originally Posted by
krustus
so do you think clomid for pct could be dangerous?
it can be, 1 of the sides is strokes.
Many ppl report mini stroke symptoms wo realizing what they are..
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wow.... didn't know that! is tamoxifen or torem the same?
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Originally Posted by
krustus
wow.... didn't know that! is tamoxifen or torem the same?
tamoxifen seems to be a yes.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15477543
And Torem is a maybe as it seems to be safer.
Toremifene
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16289904
Also this is why I always stay on a massive dose of fish oil. And by massive I stay in the 10 to 20 gram range a day.
Consumption of fish and fish oils and decreased risk of stroke.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12624561
Abstract
Consumption of fish and fish oils was first associated with decreased risk of cardiovascular disease almost 50 years ago. Since then, a number of epidemiologic studies have evaluated whether their consumption is specifically associated with stroke. Ecologic/cross-sectional and case-control studies have generally shown an inverse association between consumption of fish and fish oils and stroke risk. Results from five prospective studies have been less consistent, with one showing no association, one showing a possible inverse association, and three demonstrating a significant inverse association. In the latest and largest of these, the Nurses Health Study, the relative risk of total stroke was lower, although not significantly so, among women who regularly ate fish than among those who did not. A significant decrease in the risk of thrombotic stroke (relative risk, 0.49; 95% confidence interval, 0.26-0.93) was observed among women who ate fish at least two times per week compared with women who ate fish less than once per month, after adjustment for age, smoking, and other cardiovascular risk factors; a nonsignificant decrease was observed among women in the highest quintile of long-chain omega-3 polyunsaturated fatty acid intake. No association was observed between consumption of fish or fish oil and hemorrhagic stroke. These data support the hypothesis that consumption of fish several times per week reduces the risk of thrombotic stroke but does not increase the risk of hemorrhagic stroke.
Last edited by joebob; 03-05-2013 at 11:59 PM.
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Originally Posted by
grim
it can be, 1 of the sides is strokes.
Many ppl report mini stroke symptoms wo realizing what they are..
WHAT!?!? STROKES FROM CLOMID!?!? Any sources on this?!? I have never heard of this and recoomend clomid for alot of people! WTF
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http://www.rxlist.com/clomid-side-ef...rug-center.htm
http://www.drugs.com/sfx/clomid-side-effects.html
it's a pretty commonly documented risk of clomid therapy, usually considered worthwhile when someone is taking it to treat cancer...
First comes the Jurgens, then the Splurgens. Happy Birthday.
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Originally Posted by
jurgensplurgen
This is true but I wish I could get my hands on some real numbers it seems very rare from what I have read but I cant find any solid numbers. . so take that with a grain of salt.
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its uncommon when used as directed, but the cardiovascular side effects and increased bp of the aas increases the risk. not a problem for most, but if you have a family history of stroke, chronic high bp, or other risk factors id just use another serm.
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I'm glad I never have to pct... With the right amount of Hcg and using it for the right amount of days I never have to pct. even after 1200mg test and 900 mg tren.
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its a common side effect. ppl report stroke symptoms all the time using clomid for pct.
I had 6 strokes caused by clomid.
Blurry vision, disiness, numbness, headaches just to name a few i hear ppl complain all the time about on clomid are signs of a possible stroke.
High doses of fishoil can actually be bad btw and cause bleeds another form of stroke and or other conditions.
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