Thread: HRT Exit Strategy

Posted by Cashout at Steroidology - www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/612215-hrt-exit-strategy.html - Follow this thread for further info

As I have recently past my 2 year anniversary of HRT, I have spent some time reflecting on what I have accomplished with this program.
After extensive research, I turned to HRT a possible solution to my declining test levels in 2009. At the time Istarted HRT, my test level was 579 ng/dl. Not low by most standards but about 30% off my normal levels of 900+ ng/dl that I had maintain for some 15 years.
The symptoms of my declining test were as follows...
1. Frequent overtraining. I had reached a point for the first time in my bodybuilding lifestyle where about every 3 months, I would find myself overtrained. In 20 years daily committed train, this had never happened before.
2. Persistent and chronic minor illness. I had begun a steady process of developing repetitive colds and flu-like illnesses that were a function of #1 above.
3. Loss of muscle mass. Because of #1 & especially #2 above, I had drop about nearly 10 pounds of quality muscle.
4. Lack of metal focus. Again, I had never experienced this in my adult life in any capacity. Focus and will are the only things that I have ever possessed in abundance.

In my 2 years on HRT, I can say that I have remedied all of the above symptoms. So, I would declare my HRT a smashing success.
However, there is still one facet of my HRT that I have yet to assess my EXIT STRATEGY.
Like everything business related Ive owned and been involved in, I always have an exit strategy in the event that it is ever needed.
So, at this juncture, I am considering testing my HRT Exit Strategy to see if will indeed produce the results that I expect.
I am considering this not as a means to quit HRT but to reassure myself that I have covered all my bases and can proceed forward on HRT for the indefinite future knowing that if there is ever an issue down the road, I have already operationalize and tested my exit strategy successfully.
I started constructing my exit strategy based on some of my own previous research and personal experiences from my days using AAS to supplement by competitive bodybuilding. Also, Ive spent a tremendous amount of time and energy in the past 4 weeks discussing my exit strategy with several very knowledgeable physicians.
So, here is the plan that we have constructed and I will follow


Week HCG clomid Nolva letro
1 M/W/F/Su 2000 1.25 M/Th
2 T/Th/Sa 2000 1.25 M/Th
3 M/W/F 2000 1.25 M/Th
3 Sat/Sun 100 40 1.25 M/Th
4 Every Day 100 40 1.25 M/Th
5 100 40 1.25 M/Th
6 100 40 1.25 M/Th
7 40 1.25 M/Th
8 40 1.25 M/Th
9 1.25 M/Th
10 1.25 M/Th

I will take my last 100 mg shot of test cyp on the Monday one week before I start my exit. During the week before exiting, I will also have my blood work done for comparative purposes.
My blood work will be done again on the Friday of the 3rd week towards the end of the HCG treatments, again when I discontinue the clomid treatments, and finally, two weeks after I complete the Nolva treatments.
So, I hope to kick this exit strategy off on the Monday Dec 5th.
I will chronicle the results here for those who are interested.

Another HRT exit strategy was posted by MarcFraz1 at UK-M - Follow this thread for further info - www.uk-muscle.co.uk/testosterone-replacement-therapy/169286-my-hpta-restart-journal-following-trt.html


My HPTA restart journal following TRT

Hi Guys,

I thought i would set up a journal logging my attempt to restart my HPTA, having been on TRT for the past 3 years.

Background information:

I am 21 years old and have been on TRT since I was 18, prior to this I went through normal puberty and had normal testosterone levels. However, following my 18th birthday i decided to diet and reached a body fat percentage of 3.6% (unintentionally). I elminated all of the fats from my diet, which was also low in CHO but high in protein. At this time, i was weight training for long periods of time, most days. This carried on for a period of months, and i was concerned as my sex drive had completely vanished, i was depressed and also had an inability to concentrate. I went to my doctors, had my bloods and my free t-level was only 4.8. Ever since then i have been put on TRT, first starting on Sus 100, then Sus 250, Nebido and now i am on the gels.

Currently:

Whilst being on TRT I have managed to regain weight and my body fat is around 9-10%, my diet and training has completely changed too. At least 30% of my calories come from fats and i train every other day for no longer than 45mins (trying to limit cortisol build up).
I am due for an operation to have a varicocele emobalisation next Wednesday, and the following day i will begin my exit from TRT. The main reasons for me wanting to quit TRT are that i am very young, risks of prostate cancer in the future, fertility, i dont feel all that 'good' on it and the UK NHS TRT protocols are very poor.

I have spoken to Hackskii about my exit and we are both very optimistic that it will work, it is as follows:

2,500iu HCG EOD with 150iu HMG EOD for 16days
100mg CLOMID ED (split in two 50mg doses) for 30 days
20mg TAMOXIFEN ED for 45 days (tapering off after the 45days by halfing the dose every 5 days)

I will also take 50mcg of IGF-1 LR3, 5days on 2 off PWO or in the morning. (Hoping to maintain some, if not all of my mass acheived during TRT and it is also supposed to help with the testes size).

Supplements:

1,000iu Vitamin E
5,000iu Vitamin D3
25mg DHEA
Fish Oils
ZMA (empty stomach before bed)
Creatine
Whey Protein, Dextrose and Maltdextrin (PWO)

Training and Diet:

4 days a week split; Legs, Shoulders, Chest/Back, Arms

Sessions will be 45 mins or shorter, focussing on compound movements and NOT going past failure.

Diet; Approx 35%FAT 35%CHO 30%PRO


I will regularly log my progress throughout my exit, and i hope this can serve as help to other people who may well be in a similar situation to myself. I have no doubt that i will be feeling extremly rough throughout the 45 days of the protocol, so it would be great if i could get support off you guys on this forum.

My next log will be after my operation, next Wednesday.

Marc

Originally Posted by grim

A doctor forced this exit strategy on me and made me a cripple for life...
Be sure you watch for any signs..

Could you please elaborate on what could happen?

I'm df sub'd on this one. I have been on for almost 3 years and am constantly thinking about trying to rebound.