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      At the end of my rope...

      Brotherhood I need your help. Doctors keep throwing shit at me to help with low sperm and low T but nothing seems to work.

      A little back story.
      I'm 37. 245lbs 18% bf. Been on and off gear since early 20s. I train in the gym 4-5 days a week. Currently been off everything for 3 yrs since I've been trying to have a kid. When I was first came off I went from 1300 ng/dl to 153ng/dl Testosterone. Doctors have worked with me to get numbers correct. I'm currently at 399 ng/dl. I've been on hcg, nolvadex and clomid. Clomid was the first thing they put me on and really fucked me up. Gained a bunch of weight and felt like absolute shit. Lost all motivation for life. Was on it for 13 months trying to tough it out and gained 78 lbs..

      Well got another doctor and he put me on hcg with nolvadex. Numbers didn't really go up but over all health felt better coming off the clomid. Started back in the gym and starting the weight loss journey back to my normal self. After giving him a try and no improvement in numbers I'm giving another doctor a chance. He is wanting to put me on TRT to help but I'm skeptic now that this is the 3rd doctor.
      I'll attach current bloodwork for y'all to look at it to see if there is anything else I can do. All I want is to have a kid and seems like nothing is helping with that.
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      For TT purposes, and you being on and off since 20s , most most likely shut down HP axis…go back on TRT.


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      Where the Hell do you put the bayonet?

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      I’d go with this doc’s recommendation. What’s the worst that could happen in a TRT dose? You’d at least feel better. I’m sure they’d prescribe HCG along with it. I’d think you could still have a baby.

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      At the end of my rope...

      Based on those labs I would say you definitely need to clean up your diet and do some cardio for those cholesterol levels.

      So your main goal is fertility; is your sperm count below 20 million?

      HCG and nolvadex works for many men, but some men need a boost in Sertoli cells which only FSH, or HMG medications can provide.

      Your current doctor is not wrong in suggesting TRT as an intervention because you can regain fertility while on TRT plus fertility meds, and likely feel much better while doing so.

      Godspeed to ya.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Lukas View Post
      With your estro that low, you're going to feel like shit, similar to having estro too high, are you taking any aromatase inhibitors with the trt?

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      I’m gonna go out on a limb here . I know you have used HCG under doctors supervision. I recommend a cycle of HMG . It’s a little harder to find but just works better for some . Could it be possible that the repetition signaling from HCG has caused a diminished return ?
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