Thread: NWILL's Log with IFBB

Originally Posted by Nwill135

I'm only do 30mg ED so .3ml. Don't have any PIP from any of my pins at quads, glutes, or VG. I'm thinking of upping the prop to match my tren dose. I've always run lower Test the past two times I've used Tren A. Want to see what happens if I run equal doses. I'll have a better idea of any PIP with a larger dose, but nothing to report as of now!!

I'm very interested to hear how you've liked low dose test with higher tren. I've looked at lots of logs and seems like people have had good success just adding tren to their trt dose. When I finally do my first run I think that's what I'm gunna do.

So today was supposed to be an off day, but got off work early and decided to hit some high volume back with some lower weights. Didn't track weights with this one but did the following at 10-15 reps:
4 sets BW pull-up
4 sets Lat Pulldown
3 sets 1-Arm Hammer Strength Row
3 sets Seated Cable Row
3 sets Hammer Strength Lat Pulldown
Did a few sets of Hammer Strength Preacher Curls and DB Curls for Bi's to get a pump going.

Workout was awesome and pump was defiantly there. I've noticed the past few days pumps have been going up. Also, a few extra reps to heaviest sets.
Tomorrow will be a definite off day since legs and back are toasted and sore from the past few days. Will throw up some more info then.


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Originally Posted by fitraver

I'm very interested to hear how you've liked low dose test with higher tren. I've looked at lots of logs and seems like people have had good success just adding tren to their trt dose. When I finally do my first run I think that's what I'm gunna do.

The past two times I ran lower test and higher tren I had minimal sides. Only occasional heart burn and minor night sweats. I have heard people running low test or equal test to tren with both sides saying they like one over the other. I'm going to try to bump test up to match the tren starting week 2 and see if there is any difference. If I notice more sides or just don't feel good, I'll drop it back down.

Originally Posted by Nwill135

The past two times I ran lower test and higher tren I had minimal sides. Only occasional heart burn and minor night sweats. I have heard people running low test or equal test to tren with both sides saying they like one over the other. I'm going to try to bump test up to match the tren starting week 2 and see if there is any difference. If I notice more sides or just don't feel good, I'll drop it back down.

Awesome man. Keep me posted I'll be following along! What kind of gains did you make the last few times you ran test lower. Were you cutting?

Originally Posted by fitraver

Awesome man. Keep me posted I'll be following along! What kind of gains did you make the last few times you ran test lower. Were you cutting?

It wasn't a hardcore cut, more of just tightening things up while keeping calories around maintenance level. Strength also went up through the roof the entire cycle as well. Definitely was a favorite cycle of mine

Originally Posted by Nwill135

It wasn't a hardcore cut, more of just tightening things up while keeping calories around maintenance level. Strength also went up through the roof the entire cycle as well. Definitely was a favorite cycle of mine

Nice man. I can't wait to try tren my first time haha.

Decided I'm going to stick with lower test and higher tren throughout the cycle.

Shoulders today looked like:
Cybex Press 2 plates (each side) x15, 2 plates x12, 3 plates x9, 2 plates x20
DB Lateral 30x12, 40x10, 50x8 DS 30x7
DB Bent Over Lateral 30x15, 30x12, 30x12
Machine Lateral Raise 70x12, 70x10, 70x 10
Behind The Back BB Shrug 3 sets of 12-20 reps
BB shrug 3 sets 12-15 reps
Shoulders were on fire after the laterals. Noticed some extra reps with heaviest weights this workout.

Tomorrow I'll be hitting arms. Meal prepping tonight.
Pins are still going smooth as can be.


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Nice work man.

Hit some arms today. Focused on supersets and drop sets. I haven't been paying much attention to weights when training arms because when using heavier weights I can't feel the muscle as well and pump isn't as great. So I haven't been recording weights or getting hung up on how much weight I'm moving. Just focusing on squeezing and contracting hard, and going for a painful pump

Rope Pushdown SS Rope Overhead Ext 4 sets
Decline DB French Press SS Machine Dips 3 sets
DB Overhead Ext SS Reverse Grip Pushdown 3 sets
Hammer Strength Preacher Curl 3 sets all with DS
EZ Bar Curl 3 sets 2 DS
Hammer Curls SS Incline Curl 3 sets

Arms were completely pumped and almost unable to take my headphones off my head. Defiantly will be keeping this kind of routine with arms.

Have been having some sleep issues lately. Not so much falling asleep, but if I wake up to take a wiz it's tough to fall back asleep. Clen had me shaking pretty bad the first week at 40mcg a day, but it's gotten better so I'm going to up to 80 mcg.
Going to run another week of Test P at 210mg and Tren at 350mg. Going up to Test P 350mg and Tren A 525 mg.
Legs coming tomorrow.
Also will post week 1 weight and hopefully get the starting pics up !!



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Nice man. Arm session looks great. I agree when it comes to arms. I usually don't go to heavy as it is not needed. If you focus on form of each rep, the contraction, and a controlled negative you'll get a damn good burn from moderate weight.

In for some starting pics!!