Help/Criticism Please w/pics

[DD79]

Here’s what’s up;

I’m 38 years old, 5’7” and sitting at 186.5lbs. I’m not 100% sure where my b/f is at, but calipers came in today.

I always want to be bigger, but have been trying to lean out for about the last 4 Weeks. I’m down close to 15lbs. I’d like to be bigger but with my b/f close to 10%.

Supps/gear: I have ran all sorts of supps in the past. I have ran test, deca, and dbol, but not a real cycle in over 12 years. I’m currently on trt and running test cyp at 200mg/wk (prescribed 400mg/wk, but I’m hoarding that shit.) also running adex and hcg weekly. I’m adding Recompadrol starting today. I also take BCAA’s and use a protein supplement.

Diet: I’ve always had a fast metabolism, not so much anymore. For the past 4 weeks I’ve been dieting down to assist in burning off the fat. Low carb of course. And low calorie. Been getting anywhere between 1500 - 2000 calories a day. Averaging 200g protein, 75g carbs, and 100g fats. Carbs are coming from protein pancakes and white rice. Proteins are eggs, chicken, beef and shakes.

Training: I train 4-5 days a week depending upon work. I have been focusing on high volume lifting with a mixture of steady state and HIIT cardio.

I’ve definitely lost some strength and size over the past 4 Weeks. The size is most noticeable in my mid section and arms, but not as much in my midsection as I’d prefer and more in the arms than I'd prefer! I'm for sure a little flatter too.

I’m open to tips on diet/training changes. Suggestions on gear/supps also.

Thanks!








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[JohnDoe]

I’ll let the guys who compete put in their two cents.

[Couchlockd]

Awesome trt doctor got you running a blast.

That's pretty cool unusual, what do your bloods show at 400mg per?

[Spyderwebb]

Here’s what’s up;

I’m 38 years old, 5’7� and sitting at 186.5lbs. I’m not 100% sure where my b/f is at, but calipers came in today.

I always want to be bigger, but have been trying to lean out for about the last 4 Weeks. I’m down close to 15lbs. I’d like to be bigger but with my b/f close to 10%.

Supps/gear: I have ran all sorts of supps in the past. I have ran test, deca, and dbol, but not a real cycle in over 12 years. I’m currently on trt and running test cyp at 200mg/wk (prescribed 400mg/wk, but I’m hoarding that shit.) also running adex and hcg weekly. I’m adding Recompadrol starting today. I also take BCAA’s and use a protein supplement.

Diet: I’ve always had a fast metabolism, not so much anymore. For the past 4 weeks I’ve been dieting down to assist in burning off the fat. Low carb of course. And low calorie. Been getting anywhere between 1500 - 2000 calories a day. Averaging 200g protein, 75g carbs, and 100g fats. Carbs are coming from protein pancakes and white rice. Proteins are eggs, chicken, beef and shakes.

Training: I train 4-5 days a week depending upon work. I have been focusing on high volume lifting with a mixture of steady state and HIIT cardio.

I’ve definitely lost some strength and size over the past 4 Weeks. The size is most noticeable in my mid section and arms, but not as much in my midsection as I’d prefer and more in the arms than I'd prefer! I'm for sure a little flatter too.

I’m open to tips on diet/training changes. Suggestions on gear/supps also.

Thanks!








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My suggestion is that u run primo at 600 a week for 20 weeks along with your test

So it should look something like this

Week 1-20 Test c 400 mg
Week 1-20 primo e. 600mg
Week 12-20 tren ace 300mg
Weeks 14-20 mast p. 400mg

Primo did wonders for me but a lot of ppl don't run it long enough to see what it really does... it's very slow acting but def will change your physique and u keep most of what u see from it



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[bigjay23]

Keep going at what your doing man your not losing muscle your losing stored glycogen and water that’s why your losing strength and size
I’m in the same boat as you right now I know it messes with your head but this is a necessary step to take off the spill over from a bulk or just getting fat
The strength and size will come back for sure because of insulin sensitivity and muscle memory once you start increasing all 3 of your macros again brother
The diet looks great for holding onto muscle regarding high protein brother plus your small dose of drugs will help maintain
My only suggestion would be if your already low in carbs to cut them completely (30g or below a day)and up your fats so your body gets used to burning your own body fat for fuel and add a small dose of creatine
Just remember to keep chuggin your water

Good luck


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[joko123]

Youbeeally shouldn’t be losing that much strength you have a lot of stored energy aka fat

1500-2k calories at this point in time seems like a pretty dramatic cut from where you started


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[DD79]

Calipers came in today. I know I should measure in the morning prior to lifting or eating, but I am impatient and couldn't wait until tomorrow. I also know they are going to take some work to actually use correctly. However, just off of today's measurement, I'm looking at around 18% body fat. I still feel as though that is a bit low. I was guessing I'd be around 20 to 22 right now.

[DD79]

Awesome trt doctor got you running a blast.

That's pretty cool unusual, what do your bloods show at 400mg per?

For real tho! She has had me on 200mg/wk for the past couple of years. Last time I went back, she just flat asked if I wanted more. I was like, hell yeah, I'll take as much as you'll give me!

As far as blood work goes, I am not sure. Haven't had it checked while at 400 wk. Last labs were at 200 a week and taken about 2 days after an injection. I cant remember all my numbers. I'll post them up next time I go though.

[DD79]

My suggestion is that u run primo at 600 a week for 20 weeks along with your test

So it should look something like this

Week 1-20 Test c 400 mg
Week 1-20 primo e. 600mg
Week 12-20 tren ace 300mg
Weeks 14-20 mast p. 400mg

Primo did wonders for me but a lot of ppl don't run it long enough to see what it really does... it's very slow acting but def will change your physique and u keep most of what u see from it



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Thats a nice looking little stack Spyderwebb! Thanks for the info, I just may give it a go when the dieting stalls.

[DD79]

Keep going at what your doing man your not losing muscle your losing stored glycogen and water that’s why your losing strength and size
I’m in the same boat as you right now I know it messes with your head but this is a necessary step to take off the spill over from a bulk or just getting fat
The strength and size will come back for sure because of insulin sensitivity and muscle memory once you start increasing all 3 of your macros again brother
The diet looks great for holding onto muscle regarding high protein brother plus your small dose of drugs will help maintain
My only suggestion would be if your already low in carbs to cut them completely (30g or below a day)and up your fats so your body gets used to burning your own body fat for fuel and add a small dose of creatine
Just remember to keep chuggin your water

Good luck


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Thanks Bigjay! I think your right, the next step is to cut those carbs down below 30.

I'll be on that right away!