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      Day 4

      Getting hunger pangs every 2.5 hours even after big meals.
      This is very unusual, I only get hungry 4 hours after big meals.
      Is the Turinabol "stealing" all the carbs I put in?

      Noticed I'm slightly less banged up after my workouts.
      After Quad or Ham I usually come home and collapse on my bed, sometimes falling asleep instantly due to the CNS fatigue.
      This acute fatigue was not present after yesterdays Quad and today Ham workout.

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      Day 5

      Doctor visit for HCG/Tamoxefin/TUDCA

      Visited a highly rated private lifestyle/beauty/TRT Clinic in my country's city center today.
      Told the doctor straight up about my cycle and why I need HCG to preserve my testicle function...
      Also told him I brewed my own gear and the recipe (cause he asked lol)

      He said he can't give it to me cause it might cause testicle tumors and he will be liable for it.... dafuk?
      And he had no clue how it will help.
      And they don't prescribe HCG to their TRT patients.
      And they only give HCG for weight loss..
      And they don't have/use exemestane in their TRT, they use Crysin for anti E (ok this is "new").
      So I'm not getting the HCG from him.

      Ok then I explained my PCT to him and asked him for Tamoxefin.
      He told me their Clinic don't have Tamoxefin, and he had 0 clue on how Tamoxefin is supposed to help me for "pct".
      I questioned him if I don't take Tamoxefin, then what should I do? ... All i got was *silence*
      And he told me ONLY medical use for Tamoxefin in whole medical field is breast cancer. (I'm like "Waooooo")

      I explained to him in detail how SERMS are estrogen antagonist at the level of the pituitary gland and thus stimulates the release of LH and FSH, and offered to send him medical research on it but he just got annoyed cause "I am teaching him".

      Then he told me he's treating some guy who is suffering from 0 test+depression after an anabolic cycle. I questioned him and ask him did the guy run nandrolone decaonate? And yea, it was nand-deca. I told him it cause never use HCG then no proper PCT with Tamoxefin.
      He still was clueless on how HCG and Tamoxefin was supposed to help.
      Anyway they didn't had Tamoxefin, so I gave up.

      Then I asked him for TUDCA. He didn't really know about it and told me it is ooold medicine. That's why I can't find it.
      But he was big on Gluthathione and knew quite alot on it and the clinic did sell liver protection supplement consisting of Gluthathione+NAC.
      So I took it.

      Then told him of blood test that I want to do at week 8 which he was ok it. Just told him to quote me best price for the bloods.

      The liver supp (5 tabs a week):
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      Supp USD67 + USD12 consultation = USD 79.

      1 liver supp costed me more than my whole cycle.
      Kindda feel I got ripped off and wasted my money... but at least I got my liver covered.
      USD 79 is ~10% of my countries average monthly wage.

      Now gotta source my HCG and Nolva.
      Last edited by vinvin; 06-19-2019 at 12:41 PM.

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      VinVin First Cycle Test E + Turinabol

      Quote Originally Posted by vinvin View Post
      Day 5

      Doctor visit for HCG/Tamoxefin/TUDCA

      Visited a highly rated private lifestyle/beauty/TRT Clinic in my country's city center today.
      Told the doctor straight up about my cycle and why I need HCG to preserve my testicle function...
      Also told him I brewed my own gear and the recipe (cause he asked lol)

      He said he can't give it to me cause it might cause testicle tumors and he will be liable for it.... dafuk?
      And he had no clue how it will help.
      And they don't prescribe HCG to their TRT patients.
      And they only give HCG for weight loss..
      And they don't have/use exemestane in their TRT, they use Crysin for anti E (ok this is "new").
      So I'm not getting the HCG from him.

      Ok then I explained my PCT to him and asked him for Tamoxefin.
      He told me their Clinic don't have Tamoxefin, and he had 0 clue on how Tamoxefin is supposed to help me for "pct".
      I questioned him if I don't take Tamoxefin, then what should I do? ... All i got was *silence*
      And he told me ONLY medical use for Tamoxefin in whole medical field is breast cancer. (I'm like "Waooooo")

      I explained to him in detail how SERMS are estrogen antagonist at the level of the pituitary gland and thus stimulates the release of LH and FSH, and offered to send him medical research on it but he just got annoyed cause "I know more than him".

      Then he told me he's treating some guy who is suffering from 0 test+depression after an anabolic cycle. I questioned him and ask him did the guy run nandrolone decaonate? And yea, it was nand-deca. I told him it cause never use HCG then no proper PCT with Tamoxefin.
      He still was clueless on how HCG and Tamoxefin was supposed to help.
      Anyway they didn't had Tamoxefin, so I gave up.

      Then I asked him for TUDCA. He didn't really know about it and told me it is ooold medicine. That's why I can't find it.
      But he was big on Gluthathione and knew quite alot on it and the clinic did sell liver protection supplement consisting of Gluthathione+NAC.
      So I took it.

      Then told him of blood test that I want to do at week 8 which he was ok it. Just told him to quote me best price for the bloods.

      The liver supp (5 tabs a week):
      IMG_1545.jpg
      Supp USD67 + USD12 consultation = USD 79.

      1 liver supp costed me more than my whole cycle.
      Kindda feel I got ripped off and wasted my money... but at least I got my liver covered.

      Now gotta source my HCG and Nolva.
      You did get ripped off, he is selling supplements not drugs. Chrysin is an old flavone supplement that was marketed for anti estrogen (does not work). Just use a sponsor and don’t waste any more €€! Sounds like he caters to females and rips them off. Lol

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      Quote Originally Posted by maxmuscle1 View Post
      You did get ripped off, he is selling supplements not drugs. Chrysin is an old flavone supplement that was marketed for anti estrogen (does not work). Just use a sponsor and don’t waste any more €€! Sounds like he caters to females and rips them off. Lol

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      Nwrmine, I'll try ask for a refund and return it tomorrow cause he promised me it's best price. Apparently I can find way better prices for same stuff on iHerb, not happy on that .

      Is Gluthathione + NAC as good as TUDCA? I can get Gluthathione + NAC easily from iHerb. Seriously dunno where the fuck to get TUDCA. Dunno if Angela sells TUDCA.

      The HCG I couldn't source it from sponsor cause finished products are always USA domestic only. I live in Asia.
      But it's ok I can get the HCG and Tamoxefin from my local suace or Indian generic.

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      Just done pinning another 1.1ml, into my left ventro glute, all the way to the side. Did while sitting down, not much shaking, no bent needle. No crazy pip.

      Dunno why it burned every time i pressed down on plunger.

      Accidentally pulled out needle instantly once I was done, 3 small drops blood leak, . Prolly cause I pull out too fast.
      Still like pinning quads much more lolz.

      Best Place For Glute Injection - The Sweet Spot - YouTube

      I jab the red area. Next time will try blue
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      Quote Originally Posted by vinvin View Post
      Nwrmine, I'll try ask for a refund and return it tomorrow cause he promised me it's best price. Apparently I can find way better prices for same stuff on iHerb, not happy on that .

      Is Gluthathione + NAC as good as TUDCA? I can get Gluthathione + NAC easily from iHerb. Seriously dunno where the fuck to get TUDCA. Dunno if Angela sells TUDCA.

      The HCG I couldn't source it from sponsor cause finished products are always USA domestic only. I live in Asia.
      But it's ok I can get the HCG and Tamoxefin from my local suace or Indian generic.
      I like both NAC and gluthianone! I highly recommend

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      Day 6

      Energy & Stress + Headache
      I was very mentally bothered with the horrible doctor visit and wasting a huge amount of money.
      Also had a horrible headache from walking 1.5KM in sun in city.
      Also suddenly felt very very hot @ 11pm.

      Ontop this stress I had a sudden surge of energy at 2am.
      My insomnia went nuts+headache and I only slept at 6am.

      Normally even when I'm bothered I can sleep by 3.30am. This was something else. Roid energy?

      The clinic haven't replied my email on my complain on their overpriced supplement sale to me and me calling out the doctor bullshiting me on "good price" with prove. Also never give me quotation on bloods yet.

      I slept from 6am-10am. 4 hours! and I've been up all day now, not feeling sleepy. The headache is still there abit. This is weird, impossible I can function on 4 hours of sleep like this.

      Weird dream - crying
      Had a very vivid emotional dream where I cried alot in my dream, cause I was emotionally touched in it lulz.
      Woke up with tears in my eyes. If I cry in dreams, I wake up with dry eyes, but this time nop. Weird.

      Workout - TBOL?
      Today was back. Slight headache from yesterday was annoying.
      There seems to be no big increases in str except the small increase I get from diet/training.
      I look about the same.
      There are no insane pumps, same normal pumps as natty.

      Only profound diff I notice is I can finish my workout much faster, and I almost never "gas out", even after heavy squats.

      Is TBOL for cardio or bodybuilding? lol. No wonder MMA fighters use it.

      Small ballsBalls has reduce in size by ~35%. Gotta source the HCG fast. Should be able to get it by day 14.

      E2
      No e2 sides/bloating. Still feel like natty.

      Hunger
      I'm definitely more hungry than usual

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      Day 7

      Tbol sides
      Had good sleep last night.
      Still have slight headache.

      Tested my bp and heart rate.
      BP is at 143/75. Borderline high bp.
      Resting Heart rate is 75. Which is high for me, ussualy it's 56.

      Definitely Tbol sides.
      Don't feel good.
      Might cut down dosing to 50mg.

      Weight
      Woah weight today measured at 69KG.
      Gained 9lbs in around a week.

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      Quote Originally Posted by vinvin View Post
      Day 7

      Tbol sides
      Had good sleep last night.
      Still have slight headache.

      Tested my bp and heart rate.
      BP is at 143/75. Borderline high bp.
      Resting Heart rate is 75. Which is high for me, ussualy it's 56.

      Definitely Tbol sides.
      Don't feel good.
      Might cut down dosing to 50mg.

      Weight
      Woah weight today measured at 69KG.
      Gained 9lbs in around a week.
      Are you still at 500mg of test a week? If so perhaps you might think of dropping the dose to like 300-350mgs a week. You weight about 140-150 if I read your intro right, you dont need very much anabolics to grow in that case. Plus it would most likely help with the blood pressure issues and in turn most likely clear up the headaches. Just an idea but whatever you choose think about your overall health with your decision.
      GET SOME!

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      Quote Originally Posted by JohnMcc View Post
      Are you still at 500mg of test a week? If so perhaps you might think of dropping the dose to like 300-350mgs a week. You weight about 140-150 if I read your intro right, you dont need very much anabolics to grow in that case. Plus it would most likely help with the blood pressure issues and in turn most likely clear up the headaches. Just an idea but whatever you choose think about your overall health with your decision.
      I don't suspect the Test, cause I'm on my first week. The TestE hardly peaked.

      I suspect it's the Tbol.
      My Tbol dosage of 70mg seems too damn high for my 150lbs weight.
      I'm dropping it to 50mg.
      Tbol (and orals) is known to jack up blood pressure and cause headaches/nosebleeds.

      No E2 sides.
      No aggression/oily skin
      No change in libido.

      Was Quad day today, didn't experience any "unreal" pumps. All pumps were still natty,
      Last edited by vinvin; 06-21-2019 at 03:00 PM.

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