VinVin First Cycle Test E + Turinabol

**vinvin** · 06-19-2019, 12:25 PM

Day 5

Doctor visit for HCG/Tamoxefin/TUDCA

Visited a highly rated private lifestyle/beauty/TRT Clinic in my country's city center today.
Told the doctor straight up about my cycle and why I need HCG to preserve my testicle function...
Also told him I brewed my own gear and the recipe (cause he asked lol)

He said he can't give it to me cause it might cause testicle tumors and he will be liable for it.... dafuk?
And he had no clue how it will help.
And they don't prescribe HCG to their TRT patients.
And they only give HCG for weight loss..
And they don't have/use exemestane in their TRT, they use Crysin for anti E (ok this is "new").
So I'm not getting the HCG from him.

Ok then I explained my PCT to him and asked him for Tamoxefin.
He told me their Clinic don't have Tamoxefin, and he had 0 clue on how Tamoxefin is supposed to help me for "pct".
I questioned him if I don't take Tamoxefin, then what should I do? ... All i got was *silence*
And he told me ONLY medical use for Tamoxefin in whole medical field is breast cancer. (I'm like "Waooooo")

I explained to him in detail how SERMS are estrogen antagonist at the level of the pituitary gland and thus stimulates the release of LH and FSH, and offered to send him medical research on it but he just got annoyed cause "I am teaching him".

Then he told me he's treating some guy who is suffering from 0 test+depression after an anabolic cycle. I questioned him and ask him did the guy run nandrolone decaonate? And yea, it was nand-deca. I told him it cause never use HCG then no proper PCT with Tamoxefin.
He still was clueless on how HCG and Tamoxefin was supposed to help.
Anyway they didn't had Tamoxefin, so I gave up.

Then I asked him for TUDCA. He didn't really know about it and told me it is ooold medicine. That's why I can't find it.
But he was big on Gluthathione and knew quite alot on it and the clinic did sell liver protection supplement consisting of Gluthathione+NAC.
So I took it.

Then told him of blood test that I want to do at week 8 which he was ok it. Just told him to quote me best price for the bloods.

The liver supp (5 tabs a week):
IMG_1545.jpg
Supp USD67 + USD12 consultation = USD 79.

1 liver supp costed me more than my whole cycle.
Kindda feel I got ripped off and wasted my money... but at least I got my liver covered.
USD 79 is ~10% of my countries average monthly wage.

Now gotta source my HCG and Nolva.

**maxmuscle1** · 06-19-2019, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by vinvin

Day 5

Doctor visit for HCG/Tamoxefin/TUDCA

Visited a highly rated private lifestyle/beauty/TRT Clinic in my country's city center today.
Told the doctor straight up about my cycle and why I need HCG to preserve my testicle function...
Also told him I brewed my own gear and the recipe (cause he asked lol)

He said he can't give it to me cause it might cause testicle tumors and he will be liable for it.... dafuk?
And he had no clue how it will help.
And they don't prescribe HCG to their TRT patients.
And they only give HCG for weight loss..
And they don't have/use exemestane in their TRT, they use Crysin for anti E (ok this is "new").
So I'm not getting the HCG from him.

Ok then I explained my PCT to him and asked him for Tamoxefin.
He told me their Clinic don't have Tamoxefin, and he had 0 clue on how Tamoxefin is supposed to help me for "pct".
I questioned him if I don't take Tamoxefin, then what should I do? ... All i got was *silence*
And he told me ONLY medical use for Tamoxefin in whole medical field is breast cancer. (I'm like "Waooooo")

I explained to him in detail how SERMS are estrogen antagonist at the level of the pituitary gland and thus stimulates the release of LH and FSH, and offered to send him medical research on it but he just got annoyed cause "I know more than him".

Then he told me he's treating some guy who is suffering from 0 test+depression after an anabolic cycle. I questioned him and ask him did the guy run nandrolone decaonate? And yea, it was nand-deca. I told him it cause never use HCG then no proper PCT with Tamoxefin.
He still was clueless on how HCG and Tamoxefin was supposed to help.
Anyway they didn't had Tamoxefin, so I gave up.

Then I asked him for TUDCA. He didn't really know about it and told me it is ooold medicine. That's why I can't find it.
But he was big on Gluthathione and knew quite alot on it and the clinic did sell liver protection supplement consisting of Gluthathione+NAC.
So I took it.

Then told him of blood test that I want to do at week 8 which he was ok it. Just told him to quote me best price for the bloods.

The liver supp (5 tabs a week):
IMG_1545.jpg
Supp USD67 + USD12 consultation = USD 79.

1 liver supp costed me more than my whole cycle.
Kindda feel I got ripped off and wasted my money... but at least I got my liver covered.

Now gotta source my HCG and Nolva.

You did get ripped off, he is selling supplements not drugs. Chrysin is an old flavone supplement that was marketed for anti estrogen (does not work). Just use a sponsor and don’t waste any more €€! Sounds like he caters to females and rips them off. Lol

Max

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**vinvin** · 06-19-2019, 04:05 PM

Originally Posted by maxmuscle1

You did get ripped off, he is selling supplements not drugs. Chrysin is an old flavone supplement that was marketed for anti estrogen (does not work). Just use a sponsor and don’t waste any more €€! Sounds like he caters to females and rips them off. Lol

Max

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Nwrmine, I'll try ask for a refund and return it tomorrow cause he promised me it's best price. Apparently I can find way better prices for same stuff on iHerb, not happy on that .

Is Gluthathione + NAC as good as TUDCA? I can get Gluthathione + NAC easily from iHerb. Seriously dunno where the fuck to get TUDCA. Dunno if Angela sells TUDCA.

The HCG I couldn't source it from sponsor cause finished products are always USA domestic only. I live in Asia.
But it's ok I can get the HCG and Tamoxefin from my local suace or Indian generic.

**maxmuscle1** · 06-19-2019, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by vinvin

Nwrmine, I'll try ask for a refund and return it tomorrow cause he promised me it's best price. Apparently I can find way better prices for same stuff on iHerb, not happy on that .

Is Gluthathione + NAC as good as TUDCA? I can get Gluthathione + NAC easily from iHerb. Seriously dunno where the fuck to get TUDCA. Dunno if Angela sells TUDCA.

The HCG I couldn't source it from sponsor cause finished products are always USA domestic only. I live in Asia.
But it's ok I can get the HCG and Tamoxefin from my local suace or Indian generic.

I like both NAC and gluthianone! I highly recommend

Max

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