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      It's time to get HUGE!

      Title says it all. I changed my mind and figured I am not getting any younger so if I want to push the size it's time to do it. So I will detail everything I do along the way and if you're interested please follow the thread. I hope to put on a lot of size over the foreseeable future.

      Training is all about the basics and progressive overload. I aim to get stronger in all lifts. Although there will be no loading on my lower back as I 100% will get injured. For everything else I will push it to the complete max in the 6-15 rep range (plus intensity techniques).

      I will follow a push, pull and legs split. Simply because I want to cover my whole body in a 3 day rotation. Therefore if training 5 days per week I can train everything twice over 8 days. The split isn't really important but the volume, frequency and intensity are. Although PPL suits me well as I am relatively balanced so just hope to put on size all over. In the far future I may swop over to a more specialized routine but for now this is perfect for me. Generally I will do 2-3 exercises for each bodypart and 1-2 working sets. I warm up slowly but go through each exercise fairly quickly so the volume will be fairly low (for me) most days. Below are some of my thoughts and goals for each training day...

      Progressive overload in all movements.

      PUSH- Very heavy pressing will be fundamental. Strong focus on medial delts as front will be covered with pressing movements. Dips, skull crushers, close grip bench and extensions for tri-ceps. Occasional intensity techniques such as dead stops, rest pauses and drop sets.

      PULL- Lot's of unilateral back movements as I feel I respond best to them. Heavy rowing will be fundamental. Lat's will be a main focus. I will start most workouts with rear delts.

      LEGS- As deep as possible leg press. Although I like to do 1 working set as deep as possible and another with my feet closer together with a shorter rom. Go crazy on select squat machines (lower back). Unilateral leg curls and extensions. Static holds, partials and drop sets will be occasionally used. For some movements I like to do one heavy movement then a drop off set for higher reps. Rest pauses will be utilized alot for my heavy leg press sets. Meaning pick a weight you can get for approx 12 reps and rest pause until you get to 20, 25 or 30 etc. For my final calf working set it's usually a drop or super set. Cardio approx 5 days per week for no more than 20 mins. I have been doing a lot of cardio on my tiptoes recently and the improvements I have made have been great.


      Nutrition will be basic. Protein mainly steak, beef mince and chicken. Carbs mainly rice, pasta and fruit. Fats mainly avocado, mixed nuts and various oils. I do rotate food sources but the above will be my main sources. Most meals will be meat with rice and vegetables. I also like 0% fat quark and with that I mix eaa's (berry flavour for example), lemon juice, blueberries, raspberries and blackberries. I also will have some oats occasionally and with that I mix whey (chocolate and peanut flavour for example), banana and coconut milk. I will also utilize cereal post workout some days as well and I usually have coconut milk with that.

      Nothing is set in stone but just a lot of quality nutrition spread throughout the day. I will increase calories as I continue to grow. Generally I like to have mainly protein and fats for my first and last meals and protein and carbs for my 2 post workout meals. All other meals are usually a combination of all 3 macros.

      I will also utilize some powders if I need to. I have a few whey and beef isolate powders. For carbs sweet potatoe and activated barley powder. Although in the last 2 weeks I have had 2 shakes (not counting eaa's) to give a reference so it's mainly whole foods. Although when I start pushing the calories more they will become very useful. I have various EAA powders which I always drink between some meals anyway. I use them mainly for taste so it's easy to keep my fluid intake high. Now I always have an intra shake and that won't change. At the moment I am using 6 scoops of Yamamoto Nutrition's Energan Intra (40g HBCD's, 15g EAA's, 8g l-citrulline etc).


      Gear won't be crazy simply due to side effects. I think I grow better on lower (moderate) doses as my digestion and appetite are not negatively effected. I started my blast nearly 2 weeks ago so things are building up nicely. I always kickstart with an oral but decided not to this time mainly due to cholesterol. Although I will add one in later so it's a mute point really. I will probably go with tbol when I do at 40-60mg. Right now I am running...

      500mg Test C
      300mg Deca

      I plan to up the deca to about 400mg soon. I will also add in 200mg mast e as well. After about 8 weeks into this cycle I will swop the test and deca over to similar doses of sust and npp (keep mast in). At the moment I inject 2 days weekly and on those days I just take 1 aromasin (25mg) and 1 Nolvadex tab (20mg). Just very simple and minimal injections for now.

      Now I will add in insulin and hgh into the mix. I will most likely rotate insulin types but to begin with I will use lantus. I get severe fatigue with hgh so I will probably have to drop it but going to try and do 2iu twice daily. My hgh dose won't change but with lantus I will start at 20iu and see how I am. Looking at upping to 30iu then 40iu. I will monitor things and maybe drop it, rotate to short acting slin or maybe even use a combo of the two. I also plan to experiment with some high dosed LR3 a long the way as well.

      I have some Syntherol and plan to use it in a way I haven't done before. Basically to make multiple bodyparts stand out and really help me look as huge as possible. More on that later.


      Supplements will be...

      Supplement Needs CV Stack (HeartStack)... 2 servings per day
      Supplement Needs Astrag-Flow (KidneyBPStack)... 2 servings per day
      Controlled Labs Orange Triad + Greens... 2 servings per day.
      Zein Ph ar ma Vitamin C... 2500mg AM/PM (5 grams per day).
      Biovea Pomegranate Extract... 500mg AM/PM (1 gram per day).
      Yamamoto Nutrition Krill Oil... 1.5g AM/PM (3 grams per day).
      ATP Science GutRight... 5g AM/PM (10 grams per day).
      Synthetek's Synthergine... 2ml AM/PM (4ml per day).

      Here are the ingredient profiles for the first 2 supplements...

      Supplement Needs CV Stack (HeartStack)

      Olive Leaf Extract – 500mg (mg per daily serving)
      Pantethine – 450mg (900mg per daily serving)
      Citrus Bergamot – 250mg (500mg per daily serving)
      Grape Seed Extract – 200mg (400mg per daily serving)
      Tocotrienol Compelx (EVNol) – 162.5mg (325mg per daily serving)
      EGCG – 150mg (300mg per daily serving)
      CoQ10 – 100mg (200mg per daily serving)
      Astaxanthin – 5mg (10mg per daily serving)
      Allicin – 2000mcg (4000mcg per daily serving)
      D3 – 2500iu (5000iu per daily serving)
      Vitamin K2 MK7 – 50mcg (100mcg per daily serving)

      Supplement Needs Astrag-Flow (KidneyBPStack)

      Astragalus Membranaceous Root 8000mg per day

      (at a 4:1 astragalus extract)

      Beetroot Extract – 1500mg per day

      Hawthorn Berry Extract – 900mg per day

      Goldenrod – 500mg per day


      I will get some updated pics up soon and go from there. I have no real weight in mine but let's just say I will stand out in a crowd
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      My diet has been very basic recently. Over the last week too basic as most of my meals have just been beef and rice. So I will start adding some more vegetables and greens to those dishes. I will also add in a bit more fruit as well. Anyway today I woke up and just wanted some cereal so I had it. I figured just have that with a protein shake. I don't drink dairy milk anymore and have replaced it with coconut (sometimes almond, hazelnut, cashew etc) milk. I only had dairy milk in the fridge which is for my gf so I just had that. I literally looked 6 months pregnant within 20 mins. When having it everyday the body adapts and I still get bloated but it's less noticeable. But after a long break the effect took minutes and it messed my stomach up a lot. So no more dairy milk for me as I want to keep my waist as tight as possible as I grow.

      Training last night was legs and brutal. I trained very late and had the gym to myself and just went for it. Around 90 mins preworkout I had beef and pasta. I tried a new preworkout and it was great. That was 2 scoops of Myblox Loco Cinco XO. Post workout I had beef and jasmine rice. My training looked like...

      Standing Calf Raises... 2 working sets the last being a drop set.
      Vertical Leg Press Calf Presses... 1 working set with a negative hold.
      Seated Calf Raises... 2 working sets the last being a drop set.
      Single Stiff Leg DB Deadlifts... 1 working set for each leg.
      Unilateral Seated Leg Curls... 2 working sets for both legs with the last including negative reps (use both legs to lift the weight).
      Hip Abductor... 1 working set.
      Hip Adductor... 1 working set.
      Vertical Leg Press... 2 working sets (1 loading and 1 drop off).
      Squat Machine... 2 working sets (1 loading and 1 drop off).
      Stationary Bike for 10 mins on a hard setting.
      Stretches.

      All my working sets were 12+ reps.

      Today is probably an off day so just about food and rest. I am about to cook a meal I have had quite a lot recently. Simply lean beef mince in a pan with baked beans and rice. It's a big meal so the calories add up. The breakdown includes 300g beef mince (60g protein and 30g fat), 1 tin of heinz beans (55g carbs, 13g fat and 14g protein), and 90g+ carbs just from the rice. So on a low rice day that is 74g protein, 145g carbs and 43g fat. I have had this meal with double the amount of rice on occasions so I have no issues getting the calories in. On my break I wasn't eating as many times but as a result increased my portion sizes.

      Moving forward I will reduce portion sizes but increase meals per day. Although I still go through fairly high amounts of carbs some meals. When having pasta for example I just use half the box each meal. I never weigh anything but it's simple when boxes are 500g (250g per meal). So that is approx 125g carbs per pasta meal and I could easily have double. I can handle higher carbs and still remain relatively tight but I have to be careful with fats. Obviously energy balance is the most important factor but I am definitely a carb guy. On lantus days fats will be controlled as well but more on that later.
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      Someone asked me about Goldenrod on Anasci and it brought up something I have been meaning to mention on the forums. Basically since I added in Supplement Needs Astrag-Flow (and high dosed vitamin c) all I do is pee. Astragulus, goldenrod, hawthorn berry and beetroot extract are all diuretics (some quite powerful ones). Therefore, they help flush everything out. That's why I make sure I drink plenty of fluids on top of everything. I literally pee all the time but only when awake so I have never had to get up in the night. It's definitely helped my overall look as well and figured I should mention it. The key in all of this will simply be making my body into a well oiled machine and that's why I need to be consistent with everything.
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      I will start posting daily now. I never mentioned it but I have been injured recently. I get an issue with my middle/upper trap on the left side from time to time. It was really bad recently so I took some painkillers which I don't normally do. As a result my digestion was effected so I have had extra bloating but it's nearly gone now. I need to get some tissue work done on the area and will sort that out soon.

      Things are good now though. I have still been training brutally hard just taking some extra off days. Tonight I trained legs and pushed my working sets to the absolute max...

      Horizontal Leg Press Calf Presses... 4 working sets.
      Seated Calf Raises... 2 working sets (last being a drop set).
      Lying Leg Curls... 1 working set.
      Unilateral Leg Curls... 1 working set (with negative reps) for each leg.
      DB Stiff Leg Deadlifts... 1 working set.
      Hip Adductor... 1 working set.
      Horizontal Leg Press... 1 working set.
      Squat Machine... 2 working sets (1 loading and 1 drop off).
      Leg Extensions... 1 working set.
      Stretches.

      Pre workout I had 1 heaped scoop of Chaos Crew's Stim Head and 1 scoop of Alpha Lion's Komodo Pump. I was literally flying as I haven't had this preworkout for about 1 week and it's a strong one. Intra was 6 scoops of Yamamoto Nutrition's Energan (40g HBCD's, 15g EAA's, 8g l-citrulline etc).

      Tonight I added in mast e at 100mg so from now on my weekly doses will be...

      500mg test c
      300mg deca
      200mg mast e

      I just received all my slin pins so I will probably start lantus tomorrow at 20iu.

      Due to digestive issues and loss of appetite I have had a few shakes recently. I usually combine powders and whole foods when I have them. Today my diet has been...

      - 5 whole eggs.
      - 50g protein from synthepure, 70g carbs from sweet potatoe powder, 1 apple, mixed berries and mixed nuts in water.
      - Beef Mince (60g protein), vegetables and basmati rice (80g carbs).
      - 40g 87% dark chocolate.
      Intra- 6 scoops of Yamamoto Nutrition's Energan (40g HBCD's, 15g EAA's, 8g l-citrulline etc).
      - Chicken (60g protein), peppers and basmati rice (80g carbs).
      - Beef Mince (60g protein), vegetables and basmati rice (80g carbs).
      - 3 whole eggs, 50g protein from beef isolate, mixed nuts (macademias, walnuts, hazelnuts, pecans, cashews and almonds).

      I generally start most days with just protein and fats and nothing too big. It's usually something fast as well and those 5 whole eggs were already cooked and in the fridge. However my 2nd meal is usually not long after and will include all 3 macros. When I up my carbs in the future the first place they will go will be my first meal and intra workout.

      Today I tidied the apartment after my pre workout meal and took some time so snacked on 87% dark chocolate before the gym. I do occasionally snack and like high calorie foods when I do. So dark chocolate, cheese (mini babybel) or nut butter. If it's preworkout I will usually add in a piece of fruit (banana or clementine) as well. Now I am adding lantus there will be no high fat snacks on those days.

      Things are going well and I have started growing but still remaining fairly tight. I used hair removal cream and developed a bad rash but it's gone now so I will sort out some updated pics. Lantus will be added on all training days and my diet won't change (minus fatty snacks). My cycle is just starting to come to life with it being 3 weeks in so lets see what that and the added lantus does
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      I feel you on the bloating, I hate that feeling it's so uncomfortable. It just makes you feel shitty through the whole day. Glad to hear you are getting back in full gear. Get some bro.
      GET SOME!

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      Quote Originally Posted by JohnMcc View Post
      I feel you on the bloating, I hate that feeling it's so uncomfortable. It just makes you feel shitty through the whole day. Glad to hear you are getting back in full gear. Get some bro.
      Thanks. As you state it's not a nice feeling. I am very sensitive to it so need to be extra careful with what I eat or take. Quite a lot of protein supplements can also cause me issues. I am trying to grow so food will be increased so I am bound to have some issues but hopefully I can avoid any really bad ones. But sure whenever I have ever used painkillers they stop being going to the toilet. I am going to take a nice big serving of fibre pre bed and hopefully that helps me as well. If that dosn't help I do have some powdered magnesium citrate
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