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    Thread: Mike Mentzer heavy duty/Dorian Yates style training

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      Mike Mentzer heavy duty/Dorian Yates style training

      Hello

      I was wondering if anyone here that uses gear uses either of these type programs. I have found them seem to work decent particularly when i was natural and I was hoping to connect with others who use the program maybe give some thoughts on what I am doing

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      Quote Originally Posted by bulldogger View Post
      Hello

      I was wondering if anyone here that uses gear uses either of these type programs. I have found them seem to work decent particularly when i was natural and I was hoping to connect with others who use the program maybe give some thoughts on what I am doing

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      I used more of a Dorian Yates style of training in college, it had some strongman, and DC training blended in. So my experience with it isn't by the book, not sure if that's hard line in the sand for you. If you want someone who ran the program to a T then my info might not be as supportive to your goals. In general I was on a lot of gear and had access to a ton of recover methods so it worked great for me. Nowadays my recovery methods are limited and very heavy training just ends up breaking me down.

      If your joints can handle it I'd say go for it.
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      Thanks bro. STill kind of figuring it out as I go. Never used gear until trt at 43 and then a couple cycles. Getting ready for my next one. Just watn to dial in training.

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      Quote Originally Posted by bulldogger View Post
      Thanks bro. STill kind of figuring it out as I go. Never used gear until trt at 43 and then a couple cycles. Getting ready for my next one. Just watn to dial in training.
      Whether you go to failure in a low rep range or a high rep range, I believe that as long as you are within a rep of failure or to failure on sets you will stimulate near maximal muscle protein synthesis. It then becomes a question of what is your main goal for training, and then designing a program of progression for movements that will help you to reach your goal. I look forward to seeing your exercise log if you plan on doing one.
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      Quote Originally Posted by JohnMcc View Post
      Whether you go to failure in a low rep range or a high rep range, I believe that as long as you are within a rep of failure or to failure on sets you will stimulate near maximal muscle protein synthesis. It then becomes a question of what is your main goal for training, and then designing a program of progression for movements that will help you to reach your goal. I look forward to seeing your exercise log if you plan on doing one.
      Best thing to say is more recomp. Some growth and power. More into a bulld like a muscular wrestler than dorian yates.

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      I used to do it a lot. I think it’s suitable as a short term plateau buster or change of pace, I don’t think it’s that well suited for the long haul. Too hard on the joints after a while, and it’s all intensity with little volume so progress is difficult after the initial stages. For what it’s worth, I found the Darden style of HIT to be far better than the Mentzer style. Higher frequency(which I’m a big believer in) and a potential for more volume(which I also think is really important).

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      Quote Originally Posted by JohnMcc View Post
      Whether you go to failure in a low rep range or a high rep range, I believe that as long as you are within a rep of failure or to failure on sets you will stimulate near maximal muscle protein synthesis. It then becomes a question of what is your main goal for training, and then designing a program of progression for movements that will help you to reach your goal. I look forward to seeing your exercise log if you plan on doing one.
      Hey bro I pmd you a question

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      Quote Originally Posted by bulldogger View Post
      Hey bro I pmd you a question
      I checked my inbox and didn't see any new messages brother.
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      Quote Originally Posted by JohnMcc View Post
      I checked my inbox and didn't see any new messages brother.
      Ill just ask part here. Are you a rep for xt labs or pomps place? i sent a couple quesitons.

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      Quote Originally Posted by bulldogger View Post
      Ill just ask part here. Are you a rep for xt labs or pomps place? i sent a couple quesitons.
      I PMed you Bulldogger.
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