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    Thread: Test e cycle Advice needed

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      Test e cycle Advice needed

      Hey BROTHERSi do have a log in aussie section but thought i'd try and gather advice from as many as possible due to my cycle ending way too soon haha On my 14th pin on 20th september and weighed and measured and disappointed at stats but here u go.
      Current stats first then previous from 10 aug
      WEIGHT-85.2KG - 82.5
      Measurements- ARMS 36.5 - 38.5 (this hurt the most)
      Chest- 106.5 - 106
      Stomach- 89 - 92.5
      Thigh- 61.5 - 64.5
      Calves- 38.5 - 37.5
      forearms- 32.5 - 30.5
      Macros- P256/C442/F115 CALS 3,738
      B/Fast- oats 1/2 cup
      Full cream milk 500ml
      Omega flax oil 1 tblspn
      Egg raw 2
      WHEY PROTEIN 1scoop
      vit d3 2000iu
      f/oil 2000mg
      Cla
      Vit c 500mg
      Super COMPLETE multi 3tab
      9am meal c/breast 100g raw
      zuccini .5 cup cabb 1c carrot .5 snow peas .5 cup b/rice and quinoa mix 1cup hot peri marinade
      sugar free redbull
      Lunch same as 9am but no r/bull
      1630pm/pre gym wholemeal bread 2 slices nat p/b 2tblspn C4 2SCOOP maybe haha creatine 5g
      During W/out xtend intra, 30g waxy maize
      Post W/out Dextrose 35g, banana med, WHEY PROTEIN 1 scoop, 250ml f/c milk ZMA 1serve, Creatine 5g
      Dinner Chunk of kanga (200g) c/breast or steak
      Broccoli 2 cup
      Sweet potato 150g
      Bedtime 2030-2100 Casein with water
      F/oil 2000mg D3 200IU.
      I know i have made strength gains and muscles more pumped but have toned which probly kept weight down also
      I trying to work out improvements that need to be made?
      1. extend cycle till 12weeks (pin sat and tues 250mg test e)
      2. up carbs and protein... ANY SUGGESTIONS APPRECIATED
      3. PROGRAM change more compound less isolation (get in get out)
      4. Might add aboost for final weeks thinking Anavar which probaly not enough time to get alot from or otherside go dbol for 4 weeks? all suggestions very very appreciated.
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      what kind of routine are you working with? also if ur not gaining, id up cals by 300 or so in the form of carbs. id do at least 12 weeks if not 15, 10 weeks isnt long enough for long esters IMO.

      whats your actual goal, adding size or trying to recomp?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Dbolish View Post
      what kind of routine are you working with? also if ur not gaining, id up cals by 300 or so in the form of carbs. id do at least 12 weeks if not 15, 10 weeks isnt long enough for long esters IMO.

      whats your actual goal, adding size or trying to recomp?
      My goal was to put on size and strength. I have been eating lots but clean as you can see. Will be upping carbs by 60-70g (another cup of b rice and 1/4 cup of oats) so far and will add more if i can fit it in haha.
      Yeah i was extending to 12 weeks but maybe 15 could be option considering iv had no sides (touchwood).
      Cheers for advice buddy appreciated.

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      also just personally id get rid of the waxy maize and other powdered carbs and just get real food. I know a carbs a carb, i just prefer food. Also take before and after pics, thats the best way to judge progress. Dont try to chase scale weight, thats how you end up getting fat (talking from experience)

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      Quote Originally Posted by Dbolish View Post
      also just personally id get rid of the waxy maize and other powdered carbs and just get real food. I know a carbs a carb, i just prefer food. Also take before and after pics, thats the best way to judge progress. Dont try to chase scale weight, thats how you end up getting fat (talking from experience)
      Yeah i do prefer "real" food but to eat clean i gotta eat heaps.. i do try as much as possible though. So i goin to get some more test e and some dbol which ill take up till 12 week mark whats your thoughts? Haha did take a photo yesterday here it is2.jpg Cheers buddy

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      still look decently lean which is good although without a starting pic its hard to judge. assuming if your 14 pins in this is week 7? For me with test e things only started getting good around week 6 so id definately extend to 12 minimum. I wouldnt worry about the dbol. Personally i think most of the gains from it are just water and glycogen which dissipate once you finish. what lab are you running out of curiosity

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      Quote Originally Posted by Dbolish View Post
      still look decently lean which is good although without a starting pic its hard to judge. assuming if your 14 pins in this is week 7? For me with test e things only started getting good around week 6 so id definately extend to 12 minimum. I wouldnt worry about the dbol. Personally i think most of the gains from it are just water and glycogen which dissipate once you finish. what lab are you running out of curiosity
      Using UGLOZ from birko one of our sponsors. Hmm interesting point on dbol. Do you suggest i add anything else?

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      Is this your first cycle? I agree about the dbol its mostly water weight but it does work good as a kick start while you wait for blood levels to stable out in the test. I wouldn't add anything else the test will make you grow likes weed. Are you running an ai, hcg and what is your planned pct?
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      first cycle id just stick with test. actually my ideal first run is test/mast. you could try dbol if you want or a drier oral but i think ull be happy as is

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      Quote Originally Posted by Dbolish View Post
      first cycle id just stick with test. actually my ideal first run is test/mast. you could try dbol if you want or a drier oral but i think ull be happy as is
      Awesome mate cheers again. Hoping with adjustments will get more gainz. Still unsure if to add any oral to cycle will have to research more.

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