Thread: Going Short Ester next month

I'm going to build my cycle on TNE/NPP as IMs. With the first 4 weeks being Dbol and last 4 weeks being Winny as orals.

I alway do Proviron and I'm a low T guy so I'll cruise at 125mg of Sust a week after this 8 week cycle.



I have some Superdrol and Var too that I had bouncing around if I were to go longer maybe 3 weeks of Super then 3 weeks of Dbol before 6 weeks of Anavar as my orals.

I'm all ears.

Originally Posted by Mentzer

I'm going to build my cycle on TNE/NPP as IMs. With the first 4 weeks being Dbol and last 4 weeks being Winny as orals.

I alway do Proviron and I'm a low T guy so I'll cruise at 125mg of Sust a week after this 8 week cycle.



I have some Superdrol and Var too that I had bouncing around if I were to go longer maybe 3 weeks of Super then 3 weeks of Dbol before 6 weeks of Anavar as my orals.

I'm all ears.

Just curious but what is the benefit of using TNE as your main source of testosterone?

Originally Posted by Hatefactory

Just curious but what is the benefit of using TNE as your main source of testosterone?

I'm curious as well.

I'd run the superdrol first, as it can take a toll on the liver a lot quicker than dbol/var. Best off using the heavy stuff and then seeing how you adapt after.

Curious as to the TNE question as well.

wouldnt use tne unless you're very lean, otherwise prepre to be a ball of water

Originally Posted by Dbolish

wouldnt use tne unless you're very lean, otherwise prepre to be a ball of water

Curious, why's TNE particularly bad for water retention?

Originally Posted by Mungus

Curious, why's TNE particularly bad for water retention?

not sure of the actual reason but people have been known to gain upwards of 20lbs in a week. I assume because its such a large and rapid hit on test a lot of it remains unbound by androgen receptors and is converted to e2.

I would have thought TNE being such a comparatively low dose of testosterone wouldn't have that problem. Strange, I've never heard of this occurring with TNE/suspensions but I'll definitely look into it.

Originally Posted by Dbolish

wouldnt use tne unless you're very lean, otherwise prepre to be a ball of water

I'm also surprised by this. You're not the first person Ive heard say this recently. I would think that it would be better at avoiding water retention in the same way that prop is better than cyp. But I guess it makes sense that its such quick blast of test that the body has to do something with all at once so it aromatizes it. Also, I thought competitors would sometimes switch to tne the final weeks leading up to a show. I could be wrong though.

Originally Posted by mfzb

I'm also surprised by this. You're not the first person Ive heard say this recently. I would think that it would be better at avoiding water retention in the same way that prop is better than cyp. But I guess it makes sense that its such quick blast of test that the body has to do something with all at once so it aromatizes it. Also, I thought competitors would sometimes switch to tne the final weeks leading up to a show. I could be wrong though.

from what ive been told, if you stage lean or very lean tne can work wonders, but for people with slightly higher bodyfat 8-10%+ it can cause a lot of bloat. There are some tho who experience no bloat regardless, these are often the people who can take a gram of test and and be dry and crisp