Thread: help me manage my estrogen!

im sure its legit its superior peptides i trust them. i have heard nothing bad and i had great results on their mk677. from info ive gathered and what ive been taught exemestane is one of the stronger AIs...ive been taking 30 mg a day.

Originally Posted by Dont wanna be old

I'm sending you a few .5mg also
You will have a idea in less than a week if this helps
DWBO

this caber is also .5 a ml. i was taking half a ml monday and friday....

ive always heard of these harsh caber side effects but never experienced any. what are the sides?

Originally Posted by jack

Jesus, so much rubbish outdated information in this thread.

@animal87 what is caber going to do for gyno? YOU cant not get prolactin induced GYNO,

first thing... there is no such thing as "prolactin-induced" gynecomastia. I've heard this one too many times and later in this segment you will understand why. Now, prolactin is another sex hormone and is secreted by the pituitary gland in your brain. Although it's found in both males and females, it's main purpose is for milk production for females. The fact is, males have no use for prolactin that we know of today. Why, God, why?? Anyway, while low levels are not harmful, high levels certainly are


Effects of High Prolactin Levels in Men:

- Adverse Testicular Interference
- Lowers natural testosterone
- Lower sperm count (to infertility levels)
- long term elevation can cause erectile dysfunction (sometimes short term)
- Low Libido
- Breast tenderness
- Male lactation
- Low ejaculate volume

19-Nortestosterone steroid such as nandrolone and Trenbolone can cause prolactin levels to become elevated MAINLY with the presence of excess estrogen. They are NOT a direct cause of high prolactin. While using prolactin inhibiting drugs will resolve issues, your first line of defense is controlling estrogen, as elevated estrogen can boost the effect of prolactin increase. It's not uncommon to prevent prolactin increase with the use of an AI. But the doses of 19-Nor steroids today, may prove that is somewhat ineffective. Leading to the necessity of having a secondary (and direct) compound to combat the effects.

The way it works is entirely complicated and I couldn't even think of a way to put it in laymans terms. But in short, 19-Nor interaction with the estrogen receptors will boost prolactin secretion. This is why it's important to control estrogen first, and prolactin second. Also why I recommend that you have a secondary combat drug "on hand" and in some cases, used on cycle. You might wonder why I say "on hand", since I earlier said that low prolactin is not harmful. Well, these drugs have some fairly heavy side effects and if not used properly can really affect your progress on cycle. So it's OK to wait until needed for the sake of sanity. But I want to emphasize this again... if you have high prolactin and/or lactating, it's a near 100% confirmation that you failed to control your estrogen levels.

Where did i say it did??

Maybe you should ask a question before makeing a ass of yourself.

I never seem or heard anyone say they get sides from caber. Its been one of those things that on paper but so far i've never seen play out in realty.

Caber or prami will help you with the rest of the gear sides if you have high prolactin too. The letro will help everything but if its very bad you can take them together and get help faster. Thats from experience not from a a study or piece of paper.

If I were you, I would drop the test to TRT levels, or at most 250mg/week, and increase the aromasin dose until things level out.

You can use SERMs to remove gyno - a better choice (IMO) since it does not crush your E2 level. Shamelessly ripped from other board:

Originally Posted by Austinite

TO REVERSE GYNECOMASTIA WITH SERMS:

Raloxifene: 60mg daily for 10 days, then 30mg daily until reversed. You should see improvement in approx. 4 to 6 weeks. If you choose to run 60 mg daily until it's gone, do not exceed 60 days.
Tamoxifen: 40mg daily for one week. Then 20mg daily until gynecomastia is reversed.

Both protocols above will take time. This is not a 2 week process. Reversal will require patience. But it most certainly is effective, side-effect-free and cost incredibly effective when compared to surgery. Raloxifene is the superior compound today for reversing gynecomastia. It can be dosed on or off cycle at 60mg daily up to 80mg daily until your gynecomastia is reversed.

Frequently Asked Questions:

1. Can I use Letrozole to reverse gynecomastia?
--- No. This is a very old school method and should never be attempted. We've advanced and we know better today.

-- Written
by Austinite