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New Cycle: Mast, Tren, Test C. w/ D-Bol Any Advice?
Stats:
6'2 235 9% BF
9 years of training
3rd Cycle
Wk 1-12 test e 500mg/wk
Wk 1-4 dbol 40mg/day
wk 1-12 Tren a .75/eod
wk 1-12 Mast a 100mg/eod
wk 1-12 Cabergoline .5mg every 3 days
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Like biker mentioned... make sure you run that AI. Personally, I find mast to be a waste at such a low dose. I dont run it any less than 600 a week... 350 will give you the AI properties associated with mast and minimal cosmetic enhancements (if any) but thats about it. What are your goals with this cycle?? Im assuming you want to shred a bit. I also have to ask why tren and mast ace when both are available in enanthate to coincide with your test release? I mean... not saying it cant be done how you have it laid out, just wondering the reasoning, especially when the enanthate version of both mast and tren will be double the concentration for around the same cost usually. Just food for thought
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If you don't mind me asking, what were your previous cycles? And what would you say your goals are with this cycle?
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I've done a test only cycle with an AI. I've also done a cycle of higher dosed test with masteron.
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Oh and I've also done a tren and test cycle
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IMHO the only thing you're really going to gain from this cycle are a lot of SIde effects without much gain. Unless you're on TRT you're going to want to start running the test about 3 weeks before you start the mast and Tren because its a longer ester. Mast and Tren at those doses really are not going to yield that much results. Don't get me wrong, if you're diet is EXCELLENT and know how to adjust your calories and macros you'll see OK results but nothing special. I also don't know why you'd kick start that cycle with Dbol. Again IMHO you'd just be asking for problems. Dbol aromatizes a lot and quickly and Tren spikes your E2 as well so you're just setting yourself up from the start to have high estrogen. I also don't understand why you'd be taking Caber especially at such a high dose. Unless you're predisposed to having high prolactin then you won't need it. Again, there is no mention of you using an AI on this cycle. You will NEED one, no if ands or buts. AROMASIN would be your best choice.
And on a side note, if that's you're current pic in your avatar then you are no where close to 9% bf. I'm not saying that to be mean just wanted to let you know. Most people have a tough time gagging them selves. You probably closer to 20%.
Again, I didn't mean ANYTHING to come across as mean or rude and hope you didn't take anything that way.
This game isn't for everyone, being big and bloated doesn't make you the man, nor does being 110lbs ripped. If you are not competing, find a happy medium. I was thin once, learned all there was to learn about steroids and got pretty big. Then learned how to eat and I got really huge.
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Originally Posted by
bulk_cut
IMHO the only thing you're really going to gain from this cycle are a lot of SIde effects without much gain. Unless you're on TRT you're going to want to start running the test about 3 weeks before you start the mast and Tren because its a longer ester. Mast and Tren at those doses really are not going to yield that much results. Don't get me wrong, if you're diet is EXCELLENT and know how to adjust your calories and macros you'll see OK results but nothing special. I also don't know why you'd kick start that cycle with Dbol. Again IMHO you'd just be asking for problems. Dbol aromatizes a lot and quickly and Tren spikes your E2 as well so you're just setting yourself up from the start to have high estrogen. I also don't understand why you'd be taking Caber especially at such a high dose. Unless you're predisposed to having high prolactin then you won't need it. Again, there is no mention of you using an AI on this cycle. You will NEED one, no if ands or buts. AROMASIN would be your best choice.
And on a side note, if that's you're current pic in your avatar then you are no where close to 9% bf. I'm not saying that to be mean just wanted to let you know. Most people have a tough time gagging them selves. You probably closer to 20%.
Again, I didn't mean ANYTHING to come across as mean or rude and hope you didn't take anything that way.
Well... not to nitpick but tren most definitely does NOT convert to estrogen. I agree with a lot of what you said... dbol has no place in this cycle at all. Youve got a long ester test, and two short ester dht compounds.... the whole layout sends up a red flag for me, but we would need to hear more from OP to help any further.
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Either way I will take all of everyone's advice and go back to the drawing board and maybe post something that would be more effective. Any suggestions on what I should do for cycle instead ? I'm trying to do a lean bulk and gain about 10lbs hopefully get leaner too.
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Originally Posted by
TheVillian
Either way I will take all of everyone's advice and go back to the drawing board and maybe post something that would be more effective. Any suggestions on what I should do for cycle instead ? I'm trying to do a lean bulk and gain about 10lbs hopefully get leaner too.
Well your goals will dictate any advice thats given so its good to include that with your stats. Id say youre better suited with something like tbol as w kicker for a lean bulk. Dbol is great in certain cycles... but I just dont see it fit in here. This is how id run this cycle personally bro.
1-12 test e 500
1-12 mast e 600
1-12 tren e 400
1-6 tbol 30mg ed
1-12 adex 0.5mg eod
Caber as needed (shits expensive and most times not needed, especially at moderate doses of 19nor)
If you plan to PCT
15-18 clomid 50/50/50/25
15-18 nolvadex 40/40/20/20
13-16 adex 0.5mg eod
Hope this helps
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