2nd Cycle & PCT Layout - Looking for feedback

**curtisg35** · 08-05-2017, 08:04 PM

I am planning out a cycle and would like to hear some feedback and suggestions. I am new to planning out my cycles (someone else planned the first one) so I have tried to weed through all of the opposing opinions and below is what I have come up with.

The first cycle I did was a year and a half ago and I fell off for a while after that. Had to have surgery, married, ect. Anyways below are my stats, I have a little fat on me from the last year. Before I fell off I was 195lbs and with 4% body fat.

Height: 5'10"
Weight: 210
Body Fat: Prob 20%

In first cycle I did: Cyp, Prop, Mast and Anavar with Letrozole for an AI. I had started out at 22% body fat and like I said by the end of it I was at 4%.

12 Week Cycle:

Weeks 1-4
Dianabol 25mg/day

Weeks 1-12
Sustanon 250 1cc twice a week for a total of 500mg/wk
Deca Durabolin twice a week for a total of 480mg/wk

Question: Will I need a AI with the above?

PCT - 6 Weeks total
Weeks 1-2
HCG 1000iu every 2 days
Aromasin 25mg/day
Nolvadex 40mg/day

Weeks 2-6
Nolvadex 20mg/day

Any quality feedback is appreciated. Also looking for a pharm discount code if anyone has one. Thanks

**VallieFlag** · 08-05-2017, 08:29 PM

What are your goals? You are going to react very differently to the dbol compared to the anavar you took before so be prepared for a very different feeling and result.
Any reason why you went with sustanon over cyp or enan? Do you aromatise heavily because 175mg of exemestane a week is a serious amount.
No Clomid in the PCT? Have you done pre cycle bloods?

**curtisg35** · 08-05-2017, 08:41 PM

My goal is just to have a nice looking body. No particular reason I chose Sustanon over the other two tests. I have never had a problem with aromatising. I was going to take Nolvadex instead of Clomid because I have read that it is a better addition to HCG than Clomid.

I have not done my blood work.

**kaneman** · 08-05-2017, 08:50 PM

This is a good beginner bulking cycle if that's what you are looking for. Don't expect to have 4% bf with this layout lol. If your ok with some bloat and water retention your gtg. You will definitely need an AI on this. If you have exemestane I would start out at 12.5 eod. 25mg/day will probably crash your estro if your not prone to aromatise highly.

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**kaneman** · 08-05-2017, 08:51 PM

Also I always use nolva and clomid for a good recovery.

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**Ragnor** · 08-05-2017, 09:09 PM

To the OP where you on stage Competing at 4% bf. Because you know that's what Phil Heath is at on the Mr. Olympia Stage. I have to tell you no way you were 4% bf not with the cycle you were running either. I gotta see pics to honestly believe that. Someone was lying to you man. Not being a dick but to many people claiming they are walking around at 5% bf and than see pics and they are 12-15% bf. If you can get to 4? bf on that first cycle listed you don't need anyone's on this forum to help you with a 2nd cycle. I call Bullshitt man 100% until you can post pics proving it.

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**VallieFlag** · 08-05-2017, 09:47 PM

Originally Posted by curtisg35

My goal is just to have a nice looking body. No particular reason I chose Sustanon over the other two tests. I have never had a problem with aromatising. I was going to take Nolvadex instead of Clomid because I have read that it is a better addition to HCG than Clomid.

I have not done my blood work.

Okay, I wouldnt recommend sustanon over a single ester especially for someone as new to AAS as you but it should still do the job. It contains some fast esters though and if you're not pinning it EOD you're sort of wasting the prop in there but the slower esters will keep you going.
I would definitely halve that aromasin dosage then. Wouldn;t hurt to have caber on hand and take a 0.25 E3D. Its not cheap,theres no harm in taking it but there is substantial harm in having high prolactin. You will be retaining water from the dbol, so having prolactin related issues aswell could really fuck you over and you might find your estrogen gets out of control. So please consider getting your hands on caber or even pramipexole.

If you can get clomid, get it and add it to your PCT. I know people that have recovered just fine on nolva only, but why risk it. Just get it, use it. Again, it won't hurt, and could potentially help greatly.

Get bloods.