Thread: some cycle updates any input appreciated!

Originally Posted by tarzannigga

alright guys so my very first cycle about 5 years ago really disappointed me. and i mean i was disappointed by my personal side effects i got from androgen use. this was my first cycle layout just so everyone knows

week1-12 500mg test e split up into 2 injections per week
week1-4 40mg of tbol daily. it may have been 20 or 40mg cant remember
week1-12 12.5mg aromasin eod

i broke out with acne like CRAZYYYYYYYY threw me into a whole tirade of depression. now what i think the problem was that i was using too much aromasin and possibly crashed my estrogen. didnt get bloods like a dumbass ofcourse. anyways it scared me away from using test for a long long time. just recently i tried the "anavar only" cycle just to see how i reacted. was making great gains but ofcourse my test was suppressed so i was like "you know what? fuck it im gonna try to run a low ass dose of test with it to see how i feel" ended up throwing in 250mg test c weekly after like 3 weeks of using anavar. and im extremely happy because NO ACNE!!!!! i havent dosed any arimidex at all and not one pimple and i couldnt be happier!been on the 250mg test c for about 4 weeks now and i am getting bloods done next week as well to see where im at. but anyways does anyone have any recommendations of what else i can throw in on my next cycle? i want to stay vigilant and aware about what could possibly make me break out in the future. so far dht's dont seem to bother it. i think i want to keep the test at 250 weekly. anyone think deca,eq, or tren will make me break out? sorry for the long post any insight is immensely appreciated!

It’s hard to say.

I was using 500mg of sust as a cruise and got ridiculous acne (I’m almost 40 so it’s fucking embarrassing). Recently switched to 600 test e and 600 deca 50mg of anadrol and have the clearest skin I’ve had in years.

Of those choices I’d go with npp over deca durabolin or decanoate. If you get unwanted sides it’ll clear up quicker. Same for tren (go are or hex) or eq (use prop). Nandrolone has given me the fewest sides out of every other anabolic.

If you can handle the sides of a faster Esther you can use a longer Esther next time. I always recommend shorter Esthers if you’ve never used the compound before. You don’t want 4 weeks of deca dick while it clears out.


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may b your aromisin was fake or under dosed?
I would suggest 300test 250npp.
use npp instead of deca so if shit gets a lil sideways it's out of your system faster.

Originally Posted by tarzannigga

alright guys so my very first cycle about 5 years ago really disappointed me. and i mean i was disappointed by my personal side effects i got from androgen use. this was my first cycle layout just so everyone knows

week1-12 500mg test e split up into 2 injections per week
week1-4 40mg of tbol daily. it may have been 20 or 40mg cant remember
week1-12 12.5mg aromasin eod

i broke out with acne like CRAZYYYYYYYY threw me into a whole tirade of depression. now what i think the problem was that i was using too much aromasin and possibly crashed my estrogen. didnt get bloods like a dumbass ofcourse. anyways it scared me away from using test for a long long time. just recently i tried the "anavar only" cycle just to see how i reacted. was making great gains but ofcourse my test was suppressed so i was like "you know what? fuck it im gonna try to run a low ass dose of test with it to see how i feel" ended up throwing in 250mg test c weekly after like 3 weeks of using anavar. and im extremely happy because NO ACNE!!!!! i havent dosed any arimidex at all and not one pimple and i couldnt be happier!been on the 250mg test c for about 4 weeks now and i am getting bloods done next week as well to see where im at. but anyways does anyone have any recommendations of what else i can throw in on my next cycle? i want to stay vigilant and aware about what could possibly make me break out in the future. so far dht's dont seem to bother it. i think i want to keep the test at 250 weekly. anyone think deca,eq, or tren will make me break out? sorry for the long post any insight is immensely appreciated!

Rule#1 Get bloods, if you don't you're just guessing at all of this.
@500mg/test/wk, rule of thumb is 12.5mg asin 2x/wk, but it all depends on your bloods, you may only need 1x/wk or you may need 3x. Since you had that much asin going, your depression could have been from tanked estro, other things are affected when that happens, and I'm sure it took a bit for it to rectify. Anavar only cycles aren't ideal and you shouldn't switch things immediately and expect to know what's causing what. I think you did the right thing running test @250/wk with no ancillaries, you shouldn't need any, but it depends on bloods. Your first run with the correct amount of asin should have given you good gains. Right now, you don't exactly know how you react to a test cycle with things in balance. Maybe you should try a test run @500/wk with the right amount of asin, you could try 12.5mg/asin 2x/wk (just a suggestion) get bloods after 5 weeks and see where you're at, adjust if necessary. Now you will have a base to work from, then start adding compounds after you know how you react to test, which you should be running every cycle. Right now, if you run 2 or 3 compounds, you don't know which compound is affecting what. Acne isn't the only side to worry about. Keep us in the loop, good luck brother.

Originally Posted by Devil1

I just recently started running sust for experimental purposes, ran it for a week and noticed pimples starting.. first time I’ve ran it in 10-15 years. I get a deca pimple sometimes, rarely but it’s just one big painful one on my back or chest. But I’m guessing it was the sust that I was on that made me start breaking out.

I run test c and deca while I cruise most of the time.. clear skin.

I was talking to my wife about it this morning. We came to the conclusion that the variety of Esthers turns me into a hormonal teenager. When I was in my 20s I was able to pin all my sust once a week and be fine. Treated it like a time release meds. Now that I’m old it must be too many peaks and valleys to get away with.


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